zoomorphi agree... seeing these on an actual person in a suit would sell it for me... some mixed pictures on a navy and grey suit (the two most common suit colors) would probably sell it for me. stuck on the fence about whether i love these or not... photos may put me in the "buy" category". I can see these looking nice w tweed jackets, but not so sure about normal wool jackets. yes they are very conservative looking, wondering how versatile out of fall they would be.