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Drop + OLKB Planck Mechanical Keyboard Kit V7
tomtomtom
9
Aug 12, 2019
I was about to buy, then I realise I'd have to wait until Feb 2020 for it to even ship... These wait times are ridiculous, and I refuse to wait so long
mickbenjamins
22
Aug 12, 2019
tomtomtomGood thing I checked the comments to find this out. The last round I ordered, to find out that the waiting time was super long. Shame to see the same thing again. Not willing to give you my money now, to receive something in half a year. Absurd.
mickbenjamins
22
Aug 12, 2019
mickbenjaminsAh here we go, last time I ordered in Oct, with an estimated delivery of April: https://drop.com/buy/planck-mechanical-keyboard/talk/2229201
zzzaacchh
Aug 12, 2019
tomtomtomThat's just how group buys work. They aren't manufactured yet.
eponymous
586
Aug 13, 2019
mickbenjaminsWhy would you check the comments to find out when it ships? It's in big, bold letters on every drop's page:
tomtomtom
9
Aug 14, 2019
eponymousI understand. I did not know this was a group but, or even exactly how group buys work. That being said, I don't see any benefit to the consumer (expect from getting something *slightly* unique) for this style of commerce. Imo, the seller should be accepting some risk and producing prior to preorders, or at least sell at a close to breakeven point during the preorder phase.
eponymous
586
Aug 14, 2019
tomtomtomHow generous of you, to offer that other people take on all the risk so you can benefit.
Traditionally, the point of a group buy is that it's organized, not by a manufacturer, but by a group of people interested in a particular product. It's common in the MK community because it allows for short runs of specialty products: Someone can design a PCB, or a case, or a keycap set, find a manufacturer who can make it for a certain price at a given number of orders, and offer to other people who are interested in it to sign on as preorders. If the GB hits minimum order quantity (MOQ), the GB proceeds. Especially for smaller GBs, there may be increasing price breaks at points past MOQ. Once the preorder period is through, the GB closes, the product goes into production, and a few months later people get what they ordered.
There are plenty of options if you aren't interested in GBs. Some of them are affordable entrypoints; some are flashy shit aimed at gamers; some are high quality and customizable. GBs, however, are going to be where you find the truly unique, niche, and interesting (and, of course, some really horrible shit, too; and what's which to whom is going to depend a lot on personal preferences and tastes).
Nobody is forcing you to join GBs, and a product you would be interested in having on your doorstep next week might not be worth waiting half a year for. If GBs as a whole, even, are just not your cup of tea, de gustibus non est disputandum. But whining about the very existence of a purchase model that's a cornerstone of the community does nothing but parade your ignorance.
tomtomtom
9
Aug 14, 2019
eponymoustldr
eponymous
586
Aug 14, 2019
tomtomtomYeah, we can tell. As long as you keep not reading things you find intimidating, you're gonna keep looking like a fool.
zzzaacchh
Aug 14, 2019
tomtomtomIf you're looking for an off the shelf, non custom, RGB loaded Planck that you can get sooner than 6 months, there's the Planck EZ.
Kris2014
65
Aug 14, 2019
zzzaacchhHe has a long wait list even from his own website. At least 3 month waiting i assume. Then I just picked up a ortho48....
tomtomtom
9
Aug 14, 2019
eponymousGrow up and relax. It's not that deep.
Kris2014
65
Aug 14, 2019
eponymousJack indeed just has an unusual and super long wait list. I ordered from him in Jun and later cancelled. Order was 7463. You can see now if I didn't cancel, I was going to be around #140 in the queue.... In the last month only 30 or so orders were fulfilled by him.
So my observation here is that things are going to be slow with OLKB anyway, group buy or not. You don't really need 3 month to order PCBs and cases. PCBs (300) can be delivered in a week. Cases going to take time but shouldn't be much longer either. I think his bottleneck is how he arrange assembling.
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