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VinceTang
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Apr 21, 2017
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I want it, but is it scratchy at all? My 3rd keyboard was actually a outemu black one, and to this day gives me the jeebers as to how scratchy it was. I know, totally off-topic, but whatever...
Apr 21, 2017
Merkelis
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Apr 22, 2017
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Electro-Cap keyboards have a very different switch mechanism than Cherries and their clones. The EC spring makes up a much larger portion of the whole switch, and once you reach the actuation point (35g on this keyboard, around that of a Gateron Clear), the spring gives way and the key bottoms out immediately. No scratchiness involved. I've heard it described as "velvety" before.
Apr 22, 2017
TheXonarConnection
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Apr 23, 2017
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What necessarily differentiates the feeling of this from a membrane? Sounds like they operate in similar fashion.
Apr 23, 2017
Merkelis
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Apr 23, 2017
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They are similar; some people compare Electro-Cap to a cross between Membrane and Mechanical. The key difference is the spring within the EC switch; a rubber dome keyboard has no real resistance besides bottoming out on the board. An EC has its spring mechanism to create resistance until you reach the actuation force of the switch, at which point the spring collpases and switch bottoms out.
Apr 23, 2017
TheXonarConnection
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Apr 23, 2017
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Isn't the whole point of the Topre/ Electrocapacitive switch ruined when it's 35 grams then? It seems like it's light enough that there wouldn't be much resistance if at all.
Apr 23, 2017
Merkelis
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Apr 23, 2017
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There isn't much resistance, but some people like that - look at the relative popularity of Gateron Clears (also 35g). But, if 35g is too light, you can get replacement sheets at 45g or 55g for fairly affordably. There are people who know more about Topre clones than me who can point you to the right one for this board.
Apr 23, 2017
Dingonek
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May 5, 2017
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This isn't true at all (the part about the spring mechanism, I mean) - the weight of the keys on an EC keyboard is purely from the domes. The spring is there for detection of keypresses. As the switch is depressed, the coils of the conical spring are moved downward and therefore closer to each other, and the capacitance of it changes. Sensors on the PCB detect this change and register a keypress without needing to bottom out.
May 5, 2017
TheXonarConnection
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May 5, 2017
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This makes more sense, as what Merkelis described seemed exactly like a normal rubber dome switch.
May 5, 2017
Merkelis
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May 5, 2017
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Sorry, I think it's just the phrase "An EC has its spring mechanism to create resistance" that is confusing, which I agree isn't quite right. Call it me being lazy while typing on my phone.
May 5, 2017
Merkelis
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May 5, 2017
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Rubber dome keyboards have no springs in the keys.
May 5, 2017
TheXonarConnection
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May 5, 2017
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I meant the part about the key bottoming out. Keys always bottom out in a membrane. The EC doesnt need to bottom. The way you said it was a bit confusing is all.
May 5, 2017
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