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RH Preyda Arkansas Water Stones
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These water stones from RH Preyda are made using Natural Arkansas Novaculite. This drop features five different stones, each with a different grit depending on your needs Read More
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keyboard_arrow_downJaggi
737
Sep 2, 2017
Wish there was more information given about these stones. Surely they must be artificial stones made with a binder of some sort, but using ground novaculite for the abrasive. But what's the binder? How is the abrasive graded? Are they fast cutting/wearing like most synthetic stones, or do they somehow behave like traditional Arkansas stones?
For anyone in the US, I wonder if this 400 grit stone isn't the exact same thing for only $30 plus shipping (only 1 left in stock):
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B073DFG94Z
For anyone in the US, I wonder if this 400 grit stone isn't the exact same thing for only $30 plus shipping (only 1 left in stock):
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B073DFG94Z
Dutch7
53
Oct 26, 2018
JaggiYou're absolutely right. This company takes the waste from traditional Arkansas stones (novaculite), grinds it and grades it, and then binds it into these stones. By all accounts they're pretty good.
Buyers should compare these to Japanese water stones...NOT to traditional Arkansas stones (e.g. full blocks of high quality novaculite, which often run north of $100 depending on the quality). So listen to Jaggi and don't buy these if you want a premium *block* of novaculite. These should be fairly comparable to ceramic water stones.
Not sure what the binder is, but wanted to confirm your hunch.
LazYevgen
133
Aug 31, 2017
Bit confused here... Can MD confirm this models ? There are none on there site and colored arkansases with specific grit ?
Adamantinepiggy
82
Aug 30, 2017
The average person is better served with a simple system like the Spyderco Sharpmaker as they are more likely to simply ruin their edge angles trying to do it on a stone by hand. That being said, there are certain edge profiles where only a flat stone will do. Scandi grinds on Mora knives come to mind or chisel grinds on real chisels. These might be awesome stones, but unless you know how to use them, and more importantly, take care of them (like keeping them flat and not letting them get dished), I wouldn't spend the cash on these when you can get similarly sized ebay 1000/3000 double sided water stones for a LOT cheaper to use and throw away as you learn how to hold an angle. Even cheaper and just as effective is automotive wet/dry super fine sandpaper on a piece of glass or marble if you are simply touching up chisels and such.
Dermott
267
Aug 30, 2017
AdamantinepiggyBench stones aren't hard to use, and it would take significant effort to *ruin* a knife on one. A newbie could absolutely dull a knife on one if not careful, but that's fixable with the same rock you used to dull the knife, with a little patience. You can always start out on an el-cheapo knife until you have the hang of it. You're similarly unlikely to damage the stone learning how to use it.
For whatever it's worth, I hone my straight razors on hard-black Arkansas stones. Works great. I've been using the same stones for well over a decade at this point, for everything from pocket knives, to kitchen knives (and the aforementioned razors, recently). I've never had one bowl the way a synthetic stone does... but there's no reason you couldn't re-lap them flat if they did.
Synthetic water stones do cut faster. I prefer the Arkansas stones because they're how I learned to sharpen a knife. Sandpaper works well, but having a durable item is nice.
All that said... these do *not* look like any Arkansas stones I've ever seen. (Green?!) Are these actually Novaculite, or are they some kind of synthetic..?
For whatever it's worth, I hone my straight razors on hard-black Arkansas stones. Works great. I've been using the same stones for well over a decade at this point, for everything from pocket knives, to kitchen knives (and the aforementioned razors, recently). I've never had one bowl the way a synthetic stone does... but there's no reason you couldn't re-lap them flat if they did.
Synthetic water stones do cut faster. I prefer the Arkansas stones because they're how I learned to sharpen a knife. Sandpaper works well, but having a durable item is nice.
All that said... these do *not* look like any Arkansas stones I've ever seen. (Green?!) Are these actually Novaculite, or are they some kind of synthetic..?
j89k
0
Oct 29, 2018
AdamantinepiggyI dunno. People try to make sharpening knives seem like it's the most complex thing ever. Man has been rubbing steel on stone for ages. Sure, it's more difficult than running a knife through a pull through - but it's not rocket science.
nantipaneith
374
Aug 30, 2017
Kind of a pointless drop, unless someone is adept at sharpening and already has a system in place that can make use of one of theses stones as an addition to said system.
cnsodom
28
Aug 30, 2017
nantipaneithI don't fully agree. For some off my woodworking tools, I had to invest in a bunch of stones/plates. I didn't know much about sharpening at the time, but I needed to be able to sharpen chisels and gouges.
This drop could allow someone to create their basic sharpening setup or add to an existing one as you said. A basic setup would probably benefit from a coarser stone, though.
This drop could allow someone to create their basic sharpening setup or add to an existing one as you said. A basic setup would probably benefit from a coarser stone, though.
nantipaneith
374
Aug 30, 2017
cnsodomUnless you're buying the coarser stones, the rest are more purpose-specific.
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