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Spokes30
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Sep 17, 2019
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This is a huge knife, can't Rike make any more useable sized knives, say 7" OAL?
Sep 17, 2019
carlos.hernandez
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Sep 17, 2019
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Spokes30They do make smaller knives around that size - check out the Thor4s (2.35" blade), RK1503 (3.25" blade), Thor6 (3.25" blade), and 1508S (3.25" blade)
Sep 17, 2019
Spokes30
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Sep 17, 2019
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Spokes30But they are never offered on DROP. They make very few compared to the total number of knives they make.
Sep 17, 2019
mikethewrapper
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Sep 18, 2019
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Spokes30I mean but let's be honest here, even if they did (and they have like only one time as far as I recall) sell a Rike Thor 4, it's just gonna be like $20 less than if you got one on bladehq/amazon/ebay/etc, and come with a lesser quality steel blade as if it's the exact same thing where they try to pass it off as the same...The insanely superior Rike models, even if they were to offer them on here, they just wouldn't be a deal - I honestly feel as though the main topic of conversation in here if they did a drop of a Thor 4/Thor 6/etc would be people calling out the fact that it's a tiny discount and doesn't come with the same metals as the o.g. factory units...I assume it's because there's hardly any way for Drop to make any money from those transactions, and especially with knives, they do a lot of embellishing in order to get people to order a knife that ultimately comes different from what they thought they were ordering....so there's basically no need to try on here to sell those if they're just gonna get shit on all the time for doing it...just go to bladehq or the other knife ecomm shops...they're certainly not cheap, but they're definitely really cool...so if you want the real deal, nice Rike models - just get em from legit blade stores where you know you're gonna get the quality as advertised...
Sep 18, 2019
Spokes30
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Sep 18, 2019
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mikethewrapperI have gotten many legit knives on DROP with great materials so I don’t agree with what you are trying to say.
Sep 18, 2019
NewHass
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Sep 19, 2019
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Spokes30Those knives were commissioned by Drop. The ones where they're selling an existing model... those barely see a price drop. Usually it's the exact same price, if not more expensive than another retailer.
Sep 19, 2019
mikethewrapper
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Sep 19, 2019
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NewHassYeah exactly. And I feel like the commissioned knives of rike + massdrop have just been taking an otherwise really nice knife and just doing away with the quality that you expect to get when buying one -since if they made a really nice rike collab I'd have to imagine that itd be real expensive w/ very small profit margins as their return on investment...which is what I tried saying before; if you want to just buy a standard rike thru massdrop - chances are the savings would be slim to none in comparison to just picking one up at hqblades/wherever; and then I've always felt that w/ rike in particular, they're always trying to like discreetly advertise a massdrop/rike manufactured-knife that's as strong as the real deal ones, but when you read into it you tend to find that they're usually lesser quality at the same price as the equivalent model or w.e....there was one where it straight up even had pictures of the HX Outdoors version of one of the rike knives (since rike mftgs HX outdoors knifes also) & the description was entirely about the corresponding rike instead (which happens to be like a full $140 more than the HX)...but you couldn't even tell what you were buying there...I've gotten good knives thru massdrop as well, but I've def wanted a rike for a while - only it just always seems to be one of the more embellished/misrepresented brands on here as a whole, which is a bummer...but w/e. If I end up getting a rike, it prob wont be from MD - but as for the other good knives I've gotten here, like the great besttechs I've gotten here, those I can at least rely on more certainty in what I'm getting, and those have all been great purchases. Usually don't end up saving all that much in the end either way, but w/e...
Sep 19, 2019
Spokes30
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Sep 19, 2019
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mikethewrapperEven though I am not a defender of DROP I have never bought a knife from them that is lesser quality than that on the open market. They are not Walmart or COSTCO where they have the size to have models of an existing design made differently just for them.
Sep 19, 2019
NewHass
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Sep 19, 2019
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Spokes30*looks at the Rike Hummingbird with a different ano for $20 more than MSRP*
Sep 19, 2019
Spokes30
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Sep 19, 2019
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NewHassWe all know that DROP no longer offers great deals. However, that is not the issue here, you say that they are selling the same knife as sold by dealers at a lesser quality. I have never seen this. Adding an ano color has nothing to do with quality. The small knife you are referring to may come in a different color on DROP but the materials are the same as the knives sold by dealers.
Sep 19, 2019
mikethewrapper
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Sep 25, 2019
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Spokes30I said in both of my comments that it was only in regards to rike knives in the past that I had seen it -- and no, it was not the hummingbird. There was the one that was blatantly obviously an HX Outdoors knife (and even had pictures of the exact HX Outdoor model in the post, but was advertised as a "rike"...maybe oversight, I dont know exactly. But it was falsely advertised). All I was *trying* to say is that if I wanted to spend that kind of money to pick up a Rike, I wouldnt be getting it from DROP. Because, again, as I mentioned twice before - I've bought plenty of great knives from drop (in fact I've purchased more blades from drop than I have from anywhere else online, since I dont usually spend $100+, I like to collect a good bang for your buck knife at a reasonable cost, so when I find one on here and it actually isnt misleading to the customer...then I'll go ahead and buy it. I have 2 in the mail from drop right now...). My ONLY point that it seemed as though nobody seemed to understand is that they are particularly mysterious, if not straight-up misleading, in regards *specifically* to whenever they sell a Rike on here. And I pointed it out solely bc I had noticed it ever since the HX outdoor mishap, which they have since corrected. The two knives are so nearly identical, I'm under the assumption that they accidentally had posted the wrong pictures to match the knife, and people were asking all sorts of questions...ever since then, I've been very quick to question the rikes that they sell on here and do my due diligence if I am going to finally buy one...because if it sounds too good to be true - as it pertains to *rike* + *drop* specifically - it probably is. That's all I was saying, but it appears as though people went all sorts of directions with it; bc again, I dont question most of the knife offerings they have other than the prices that can be found elsewhere...at this point I don't particularly see how that's going to finally clarify what I was trying to say in the first place, since it's very redundant at this point, but all I was trying to get across was to do your due diligence when checking out Rike's here on drop. Another good example was the recent rike with the very low quality AUS blade material that everybody was up in arms about - since it seemed like finally there was an affordable rike, but the fine print managed to prove to buyers why it was considerably cheaper... if there ever is a reasonably-priced rike that isnt the M3, then I'll make sure to check it out in depth; but until then, I'm happy with my collection of besttechs + civivi + kershaws (but the Kershaws from bladehq or even amazon though, dunno why they're so much more costly on here. That's the one question I dont think will ever be answered for me...)
Sep 25, 2019
Salted_Pork
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Oct 4, 2019
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mikethewrapperA disclaimer here saying I currently own 5 Rike knives and like 3 of them. Two have really bad quality issues that make them unusable, but when they're good, they're really good. Drop also has its fair share of issues that I don't want to discredit here with product advertising, MSRP, pricing, and spec lists are are not totally off the hook here. The AUS8 mishap was Rike's fault; that model was only available with AUS8 everywhere, not just here. The HX Outdoor thing was them selling a knife that was designed and manufactured by Rike but with different branding. It's still a Rike, but that knife doesn't exist in Rike's official line-up. I'm not sure exactly what the issues with that drop were other than some poor decisions by the marketing team. Honestly, Rike is responsible for a lot of the issues that you see on their drops. Poor quality control, inconsistent finishing and anodization, and maybe worst of all, changing materials, which enables Drop to market the knives in a pretty misleading way. They really like to introduce a new product in M390 and move to S35VN later in the production cycle. This isn't really an issue if the price comes down to reflect it, as S35VN is still a top tier steel, but it could lead people to think that they're getting a killer deal on a knife that "used to be $300 but is now only $215." These are issues that Rike has independently of their retailer and pinning them on Drop isn't fair to them.
Oct 4, 2019
mikethewrapper
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Oct 4, 2019
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Salted_PorkNo I understand that, and that's good to know some clarification about the AUS8 thing before...but literally right now, the Thor 3 is the one that I was mentioning in my comments that is very very similar to the HX Outdoors (which I know + understand is another company, but that Rike manufactures their knives and are separate from the Rike lineup...what I was referring to was the last time the Thor 3 was "on sale" on here, drop very obviously/clearly put in a couple of pictures (probably 3 out of 11-12 total) that were the HX Outdoors equivalent model that Rike makes for them...it was clearly made by mistake; but it caused for a ton of confusion and obviously had people questioning the integrity of the sale as a whole...One customer even had said that he paid a Rike-quality price, and in the mail they verified that they received an HX Outdoors - the "equivalent," if you will, of the Thor 3. I had an order for the HX Outdoors version in place for a while with Fasttech, but they f'ed up my order and shipped it to the wrong place + it took me nearly 6 months to just ultimately get a damn refund, even though they had the knife in stock - they just didn't want to give me the same deal that I originally purchased after they fucked up shipping it to me, which imo isn't my problem + they should've given me the fucking knife instead of trying to pull a quick one on me....but that's an entirely different tangent to go on at a different time or something.... But the Thor 3 now has all of the correct pictures and all of that; but the last drop of it they literally had the ones which had the HX Outdoors + model # inscribed right on the blades in a few of their pictures....so people were wondering what knife they'd even be getting when buying it...seeing as obviously the Thor 3 is going to be "worth" far more than the HX equivalent, although they're basically the exact same (they really are so damn similar too, it's like so f'in half-assed haha), but the HX version has a lesser quality metal blade, if I recall correctly...
Oct 4, 2019
Salted_Pork
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Oct 4, 2019
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mikethewrapperThe Thor3 is also an integral knife as opposed to the HX's "sandwich-style" construction, which will increase the cost immensely. The Thor is a $550 knife before any discounts. I'm not sure what the price on the drop was, but if it was under $500, people should have been skeptical out of the gate. I'm sorry to hear there was a lot of confusion around that drop, and it probably was some employee at Drop who had a bad day and made a series of nasty mistakes.
Oct 4, 2019
Jonduncan316
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Dec 6, 2019
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mikethewrapperFastTech has hands down the worst customer service period. They’re awful and ask you to prove to them that you’re product doesn’t work when you receive it broken and they don’t believe that you didn’t break it -/ they’re so shady. I don’t give them my money period. They’re a hoax and don’t follow American business etiquette at all. Shady as a tree.
Dec 6, 2019
Omniseed
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Mar 27, 2020
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NewHassThe Hummingbird MSRP is $150, the Drop price is always around $80, I think your math is bad
Mar 27, 2020
Omniseed
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Mar 27, 2020
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mikethewrapperThe ZD-006 has an S35VN blade, and it's a great knife, or at least mine is one of my favorite fidget knives and works well anyway.
Mar 27, 2020
NewHass
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Mar 27, 2020
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OmniseedThe Hummingbird has varied in price between $75 and $90, IIRC. The drop before the one I bought it on was at $95, but the one before that was $20 less.
Mar 27, 2020
roubaix1
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May 30, 2020
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mikethewrapperI have both , the Thor 3 and HX Outdoors. The quality is the same for both. The Rike was $299 vs. $140 for the HX. The HX is not available that I can find anymore.
May 30, 2020
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