I have good noise canceling ear muffs but I sometimes let my my friends wife use them while shooting. She's a dam good shot. I use the foam ones and they work fine but they are disposable. I was thinking these might be something that I didn't always end up throwing away. I agree with the comment about the price of a whole bag of the foam ones. From what people are saying about the length, fit and the problem with taking them out. I'll stick with the disposable ones.