Now I am just doing this for entertainment.....
RPMWEST has a spreadsheet online in which folks can find other folks that may have a size they are willing to trade. As of today, there are a total of 71 users across, US, Canada, Europe and Asia. Based on those demographics (and I do not know any of the statistics of the users themselves):
65% of buyers (46 out of the 71) were looking for a bigger size after having tried on the jacket
21% of buyers (15 out of the 71) were looking for a smaller size after having tried on the jacket
9% of buyers (7 out of 71) felt OK about the size, but wanted to change their colors.
From the looks of it, there appears a statistical tendency (3 times as frequent at least in this sample), for folks to chose jacket sizes smaller than they really need. A third of the buyers needed a smaller size. Most folks liked the colors they received. There does not appear to be a difference between size exchanges between the US and the rest of the world. Now I just have to wait for the jacket to come in to check if it fits...
DesastorThis is why I am going to pass even though I really like the jacket. The measurements they have provided are to vague, they really ought to include a diagram to show how they have taken the measurements and also specify if the chest measurement is for inside or outside the jacket.
RPMWESTManuel is correct, there was never an uncertainty that the CF is based on outside measurements. However, what was never made clear is how much the outside measurement differs from the inside once since most folks will not know how much to allow for material thickness. Usually, garment industry dress jackets are cut 4" larger than actual Chest Circumference, but it believe that RPM jackets are 3" larger, although I never got official confirmation of that educated guess (although I asked). But I agree that a more precise description of these measurements would have eased concerns of potential buyers especially if there is a possibility for a store credit to exchange for a bigger size (even if the buyer pays for shipping costs). But it is RPMWEST's business model and all power to them. Since Massdrop has offered the jackets I have dug around a bit and the information that I got from folks that responded to my inquiries is that of frustration. I wish RPMWEST the best, but I can't say that I am wowed so far. If the jacket I ordered fits, its a good deal. If it does not, I will have wasted a $160 bucks as I am not going to run around trying to chase someone down who will trade a jacket with me. That just does not make me feel cozy and warm so that I come back and do repeat business.
DesastorI understand your interest in getting the right fit, but I think you're going a bit far down the rabbit hole with this. We've provided a chart that shows all the crucial measurements of the jacket taken from the outside, and included our model's measurements and what size he wears. That's really about all we - or any other ecommerce site - can do (most do a lot less than that). Again, I totally hear your interest in wanting to nail the fit, but if after all of that info you don't think it will work then I respect that and there are no hard feelings if you don't want to purchase!
scoootyCompare these measurements to the same measurements on a jacket that fits you. This is the industry standard way to determine the size of garments. Body measurements are complicated because they don't account for the allowances built into the garment.
DesastorWhere is this spreadsheet?
Despite my best efforts I ended up wit a pair of raw jeans a size too big from another RPM West drop.
I wont be making that mistake with this drop.
madllamaIt was on their website but I remember finding the link through their Kickstarter campaign. I can tell you that I am in the upper end of the large and ordered an xlarge out of fear that the large would be too small. It ended looking like a potatoe sack and I ended up returning it for a large, which is perfect fit for a warm winter climate as I don't need to wear anything thick underneath. This jacket looks very similar to old CA prison jackets out of the 1980's. If I would do it all over again, I would pass on the jacket and get a Calhardt instead. Pretty much the same thing in terms of wearability.
65% of buyers (46 out of the 71) were looking for a bigger size after having tried on the jacket 21% of buyers (15 out of the 71) were looking for a smaller size after having tried on the jacket 9% of buyers (7 out of 71) felt OK about the size, but wanted to change their colors.
From the looks of it, there appears a statistical tendency (3 times as frequent at least in this sample), for folks to chose jacket sizes smaller than they really need. A third of the buyers needed a smaller size. Most folks liked the colors they received. There does not appear to be a difference between size exchanges between the US and the rest of the world. Now I just have to wait for the jacket to come in to check if it fits...