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Previously called the ZY cable, the Fanmusic cable for Sennheiser HD 800 uses the same construction with small aesthetic differences. A great upgrade for the stock cable, it's made with large-diameter four-core twisted crystal copper and Neutrik-plated nickel silver for superior durability, high resolving power, and a smooth sound Read More
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My stock cable had cosmetic issue with exposed wire at the Y section. That is why went to look for aftermarket cables. Apart from being cheaper and looking nice. This cable unexpectedly made a difference in sound quality. It actually delivered INFERIOR sound quality to the stock cable and made everything sound noticeably worse. I guess I got what I paid for. Being way cheaper than a stock replacement cable.
SQ change
- The bass of my songs now sound uncontrolled and bloated
- Harsher highs(like the stock HD800's treble wasn't harsh enough),
- Lifeless vocals. the vocals are now has a metallic feel to it. both female and male
What's worse, there's almost no instrument separation in my tracks now, everything sound muddled together. With the stock cable, I can distinctly hear different instruments playing. I switch tested back and forth many times and the difference is obvious.
Now I know the whole lot of you think cable shouldn't make a difference in sound quality, (blah blah. ooooh audiophile snake oil etc etc). Can't blame you. I thought the same way until I did a hands on comparision. In my experience it DOES make a difference and I'll put it simply. If you can't distinguish the stock cable sound from this rubbish cable sound, then you don't have good enough ears to appreciate high-end headphones like the HD800 in the first place. I'm gonna put this cable up for sale on craigslist. Obviously I'm not gonna tell the buyer the real reason I'm selling this. XD Wish me luck in selling this cable and finding one with the same or better SQ to the stock. Peace.
Actually, you and Elmura are correct. The "connection" for headphones are DC (fixed polarity) however the "current" , the pulses that occur 20K+ times per second (the music) is in fact AC! Kind of odd that way. Too bad you couldn't do a 3 second Google search (like I did to confirm what I learned in school 20 some years ago), instead went full retard!
BansakuThat's not what AC current is for the purposes of discussing the difference between DC and AC. The analogue current flow to a headphone driver or a speaker is indeed a current that goes from positive to negative electron flow on the "positive" wire, because it is an analogue waveform signal expressed electrically across an electromagnet. It is NOT single phase alternating current flow. Where is the third wire? Live, Neutral, and Earth, you need a third wire or for the device to be double insulated (which headphones are not) for true alternating current. For the purposes of our discussion, skin effect would be irrelevant on headphone cable wiring anyway because the wire we use is multi-stranded, not solid wire.
These cables took awhile to run in, about 150 hours but now it's very articulate right through the range and very smooth, also the low end goes deep. At $99 it's a bargain I paid $139 on the last drop, but please remember you must give this cable time to break in.
I've had this cable for a year and I recommend it. It's the cheapest option I could find but it's still of a very good quality, I've had no issues. But it won't improve sound quality one bit, cables don't work like that and anyone trying to convince you they do is selling snake oil.
But this is a good product at an attractive price.
Good Grief, Slow Pete! You've been on this rant for two months! Let it GO, son! Obviously cables and audio and such are too much for you. I suggest you shut down that computer, go outside, and find a NEW hobby. How about apple picking? Then you can save a nice, shiny one for the lady who teaches your Remedial Reading class.
CanFanRemedial reading, huh? I'm sure you'll have no trouble pointing out where I made such a stupid mistake that I deserve this insult? It can't possibly be because I correctly called YOU out for being a retard aready, can it? Hmmmm. I guess you subscribe to the Donald Trump School of Thinking Goodly (The Best), where being caught out means doubling down on whatever stupid shit you got caught for in the first place, and never, ever admitting you were wrong. Hey, maybe if you keep on it, it will become true!
I’m getting real tired of everyone on Massdrop calling every cable drop snakeoil. Yes, cables don’t improve the sound unless you are using ultra-cheap China special cables. But $110 for this cable, or something like $65 for those Venture Electronics cables is very reasonable. There’s nothing wrong with buying a $65 cable for a pair of $200 HD6XXs if you want a nicer cable. And if you want a balanced cable then there aren’t many options below $60, so that’s very reasonable. In this case this is cheaper than buying replacement stock cables for the HD800S, how is it snakeoil? When we get into the $300+ silver cables that claim to improve sound quality, that is snake oil. But hey, if you have $500 to spend and already have tons of headphones and want to buy a $500 braided boutique cable because it’s super nice, all power to you. Just know that it is not improving sound quality.
CokemanLike everything else it’s Buyer Beware.
Some but not all cables sold on Massdrop have been absolute garbage. As long as Massdrop allows returns then no problem taking a chance. That’s why I rely so much on reviews from those who have actually purchased.
There's a lot of debate about cables out there, and those with their opinions, well, have their opinions, and they probably won't change.
Personally, I've done a lot of cable testing over the years on all sorts of low to high-priced gear, and here's what I can say with a fair bit of experience - depending on a number of factors, including material, gauge etc., every cable has it's own signature "sound", if you will, even if minimally audible. I've also seen situations where some cables sounded crappy with one set of gear, but amazing with other sets.
Ultimately, audio preferences are subjective, and everyone has their own. If you spend some time trying different gear combinations over a long period of time, I'm sure everyone can find a combination that they consider their pinnacle. One thing that's usually a constant, though, is that almost every decent entry-level aftermarket cable is an improvement over stock.
The "snake oil" comes into play with those who try to convince you that the most expensive, esoteric cables are the be all end all. At a certain price / performance point, diminishing returns kick in rapidly, and the difference between, say, a $1,000 cable and a $50,000 cable will be marginal vs. the jump from stock to a $200-$300 upgrade.
IMHO, the goal is to find a combination that you find most pleasing that fits your budget, and in the audio game, there's gear for every single budget out there. Forget what others say and take the time to test different gear combinations; who knows your listening preferences better than you do, after all. With a bit of patience and tinkering, you'll be surprised about the improvements you can make, even at entry-level price points. As a general guideline, for anyone who might be thinking about upgrades, a good ratio is max 10% of the cost of your gear on cables. Anymore than that and you're wasting your money.
MikeSattlerDespite the premium appearance and price of the wire, the stock cables are poorly engineered and prone to having the insulation tearing . Some of us just want a (relatively) cheap and functional replacement. The stock cables also share a common ground, so you need a different one if you want to use an amplifier like Sennheiser's HDVD 800. Yeah, if you are doing that, you can probably afford to spend Sennheiser's price, but it is hard to justify spending any more than you need to spend for what is essentially just a wire and they charge so much.
TonepoetNot sure what you mean about a common ground. The stock hd800 cable has 4 wires underneath all the shielding and is easily reterminated to balanced if you or someone you know has basic soldering skill. I did this with my own pair and it sounds every bit as good as the pricey cardas balanced cable I also own via a Yggy and BH mainline.
I didn't say anything about the sound. All I said was it is cheaper than buying a replacement stock cable from Sennheiser. Never said it sounded better.
I don't want to insult anyone's intelligence, but numbers talk and should be self explanatory. If you have a balanced amp, this cable is much much much much much much much much much much much cheaper than the official cables Sennheiser sells themselves.
ex: http://en-de.sennheiser.com/news-the-ultimate-in-listening-pleasure-the-new-sennheiser-high-end-cables-
$380 for the CH 800 S is what I'm seeing everywhere right now. $320 for the CH 700 S. $240 for the CH 650 S.
Piss take comments on this cable being expensive are null imo. I won't comment on how it sounds due to not owning one. However, if you have a balanced amp and dac, you should see benefits from running fully balanced (which this cable can provide) depending on the amp and its design. I suppose that if you don't own a balanced capable setup, an HD800 and/or your stock cable isn't damaged or lost, save your money.
Not much else to say. OFC vs. OCC, OCC wins objectively. Whether or not you can hear the difference, that's up to the individual.
note: you can always reterminate the stock cable.
ex: http://www.head-fi.org/t/490316/re-terminating-the-sennheiser-hd-800-cable-to-balanced#post_6620771
socks_OCDObjectively speaking, OFC is better because it is cheaper and you can't hear the difference between it and OCC. Every time. Even on systems costing 10s of thousands of dollars A/B'ing over weeks you can't tell a difference. Stop spreading Snake-Oil. Now I'll admit these are a decent made cable. Decent.