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Gramblor
82
Nov 16, 2020
I also own these... Imo, just as bad as the ie80S. I have no idea how the company that produced the hd600 series could make iem's this bad.
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peaceful_distance
Nov 16, 2020
GramblorCould you elaborate on why these two models are disliked, and make any comparisons to other models that are preferred? Just genuinely curious since I am interested in going for these drops.
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Gramblor
82
Nov 16, 2020
peaceful_distanceJust re-listened to these. They're very thick and bassy, and lacking in detail. They almost sound muffled. I prefer my Sennheiser HD1 Free bluetooth iem's to either the ie60 or ie80S. The HD1 Free's are also v-shaped, but much less muddy sounding. If you want a good iem with a lot of bass, get the Blon BL-03 instead of any of the above mentioned Sennheiser iem's. Much cheaper, too. Otherwise, a great entry level iem is, of course, the Tin T2. I say "entry level," but for all but crazed audiophiles, it's virtually end-game.
peaceful_distance
Nov 16, 2020
GramblorThat's good insight to hear, I have tried the blon before but had issues with shoutiness in the 4khz range even with a good seal with special tips. Not sure if you have any other recommendations if this is the case for my ears? What about the ie80s if the bass nozzle is turned all the way down?
Gramblor
82
Nov 17, 2020
peaceful_distanceThe bass on the ie80S is terrible at all levels. It's a weird gimmick. The T2's are my go to iem to recommend. Most iem's I've heard have been pretty bad. The Tin P1 is my daily driver at the moment, but it requires a lot of power to drive without distorting. I use it with Spinfit tips and my Radsone es100, balanced.
phoenixsong
1055
Nov 17, 2020
GramblorA pity- they do look nice. Sennheiser's budget iems are decent imo, but their higher priced ones aren't value for $
Gramblor
82
Nov 17, 2020
phoenixsong$100 is waaaay too much for the ie60. If I heard them without knowing their price, I'd guess fifteen or twenty bucks. I was seriously burned by these iem's
phoenixsong
1055
Nov 17, 2020
GramblorYowch! Could they have been a faulty pair?
Gramblor
82
Nov 17, 2020
phoenixsongFirst of all, there's no accounting for taste. I've seen positive reviews for the ie60 on Amazon, whereas the ie80S has mostly bad reviews. IMO the ie80S is marginally better than the ie60, but they sound quite similar. I highly doubt there's anything wrong with either of my units.
Tickler136
8
Nov 17, 2020
GramblorI don't dislike the IE60 as much as you do, but there's no escaping the fact they're old IEMs now. I've had mine forever and to be honest they should be now somewhere between £15 and £30. They're definitely no better than either the Blon BL03 or Tin T2, more "different" than out and out "worse". So to anyone who is planning on dropping actual money on these, please be warned, you're paying about $30 for the sound and $70 for the name and the perceived quality. You might be fine with that and I'll not disagree with you, but you do need to be aware that a better sound can be had for MUCH less.
Tickler136
8
Nov 17, 2020
peaceful_distanceThe IE60 might actually suit you if you have difficulty with shouty Blons. The IE60 is quite laid back in its presentation and not shouty at all. It's too warm for my liking and tuned a bit on the bass heavy side, but it's also not terrible. But also heed my warning that it's a $30 IEM with $70 of badge and perceived quality. It does have good tips and a fancy case bundled though.
Gramblor
82
Nov 17, 2020
Tickler136It's true that I prefer a lot of detail, but I will virtually always take a bass emphasis over treble in most cases. Imo, these headphones take the Sennheiser veil to the extreme. I did notice however that vocals are nice and smooth in the ie80S yesterday when I listened to them. You're pricing analysis is spot on. If these cost thirty bucks I would not have crapped on them like I did.
Tickler136
8
Nov 17, 2020
GramblorSome people don't have or want 10, 20, 30 or more sets of IEMs (they're wrong but that's some people for you). If one of those people got a blister pack with the Legend "Belief Letmusicburn Oppoty Nevergiveup" upon the front, they'd be spooked. Then they'd put them in their ears and wonder why they fell straight back out again, and sounded rubbish. Or why the cable felt so nasty, and pulled the IEMs out of their ears. They'd throw them away before thinking to change the tips and cable. Likewise they'd wonder why the T2 has no bass whatsoever when they try to drive it straight from their phone. As a name brand IEM, it's not the worst around for the $. It's a safe, inoffensive thing that's a step up from the old cx series. The Tin T2 Plus is half the money and much better to boot (and unlike the Tin T2 doesn't need amping and unlike the Blon doesn't need tips and a cable) but someone who values the name and doesn't have multiple sets kicking around won't be overly disappointed. It's just a bang average, 3 out of 5 safe choice IEM for someone who doesn't care about IEMs.
Gramblor
82
Nov 17, 2020
Tickler136I don't know, I think the T2 is pretty great. Unlike the ie60 I wouldn't fault Tin for selling it for eighty or a hundred bucks. It's a steal for the Drop price of 35. I auditioned it for a couple of buddies last year. One went out and bought it, and the other was ecstatic that I got it for him for his birthday. I know some people on forums don't like it, but then go on to recommend headphones I think are total trash. Like I said before, there's no accounting for taste.
phoenixsong
1055
Nov 17, 2020
GramblorYup, I didn't like the Tin 2. To me its treble seemed off, and it was tiring to listen to
phoenixsong
1055
Nov 17, 2020
Tickler136But according to wat you guys described, this iem sounds like it could be similar to the Focal Sphear but with more bass bloat. I wasn't impressed by those for the asking price
Tickler136
8
Nov 17, 2020
GramblorPeople who don't like the Tin T2 tend to be the same people who think their smartphone drives it "just fine" because they can get to an acceptable level. Fed with extra amplification, the Tin T2 is excellent.
phoenixsong
1055
Nov 17, 2020
Tickler136Lmao I did try it with desktop amps and my phone was an LG with Quad dac
Tickler136
8
Nov 17, 2020
phoenixsongIt's not bloated or slow. There's just more of it than I like. It doesn't even go super deep, it's just there. The treble detail is there but you have to really listen to it because the bass dominates the mix somewhat. But it's tuned "safe" without the upper mid or treble spikes that afflict a lot of ChiFi. This might be a good thing for you and certainly if I was going on a long train journey I'd consider taking the IE60 because it isn't fatiguing. I can't recommend it wholeheartedly because as I said, plenty of cheaper IEMs do a better job. But if smooth and safe is your thing actually it's probably nicer tuned than anything Chinese. I haven't hear the Focals you've referenced so I can't compare.
Tickler136
8
Nov 17, 2020
phoenixsongI said "tend to be". A lot of people complain about the bass on the t2 which just doesn't wake up until you give it a good solid kick with power. Not liking the treble is a different thing entirely - I'd say Chinese kit probably isn't for you if you're sensitive enough to find the T2 treble uncomfortable. You ever heard the original KZ ZS10? Now that had AWFUL treble lmao.
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