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nanashiki
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Nov 14, 2014
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The issue here is that the so called "opinions" are not discussing the "relative merits and value" of this product, but are instead disparaging the very concept of woodworking. I'm not made of money, but I do have a shop and toil and strive to come up with viable products. It isn't just a "piece of wood"; it's a bandsaw that costs hundreds, a table saw that costs thousands, a router, sander, drill press, etc... -- it's work, and hours of it. It doesn't cost $15 because a person can spend more than 15 hours working at a piece until it comes to fruition. Want to discuss the actual "merits and value"? Determine the price of the ply first, then the veneer, then the steamer, and then the time it takes to make one of these. You may find yourself surprised that it doesn't cater to an audience that thinks of it as only "a piece of wood". As a said, a little respect should be shown around here for people who CAN make things and put forth the effort to do so.
DoctorX
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Nov 16, 2014
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nanashikiI find it funny you keep bringing up $15 which you conjured up from thin air.
Nobody is saying it should cost $15, but that over $100 is quite a steep price to pay compared to let's say Woo Audio aluminum stands for $70 which is extremely nicely finished and made of machined aluminum. Esp. when it's featured on a discount website.
Do you even understand the concept of mass production? I'm pretty sure Sieveking do not have a army of people hand making these things out of workshops, with sweat dripping down their foreheads.
Why does respect figure into price discussion? Do you "disrespect" a manufacturer if you voice your opinion that the price is too high?
And why do you feel like you need to somehow "defend" Sieveking?
I can assure you they don't need defending, plenty of people bought the stand at retail - just look at all the Head-Fi photos featuring them, they're not scrambling jets because some internet posters complained about the price, no red flashing lights are spinning at the factory, the designer isn't crying himself to sleep.
It's quite hilarious for you to think you somehow made a moral stand on a headphone stand.
Nope, not world hunger, not cancer or AIDS, not homelessness, not helping out in your community, but this, a headphone stand where some people feels is too expensive, is where you say "NO! I will not take it ANYMORE!"
Maybe that's what gets you off.
Nobody is saying it should cost $15, but that over $100 is quite a steep price to pay compared to let's say Woo Audio aluminum stands for $70 which is extremely nicely finished and made of machined aluminum. Esp. when it's featured on a discount website.
Do you even understand the concept of mass production? I'm pretty sure Sieveking do not have a army of people hand making these things out of workshops, with sweat dripping down their foreheads.
Why does respect figure into price discussion? Do you "disrespect" a manufacturer if you voice your opinion that the price is too high?
And why do you feel like you need to somehow "defend" Sieveking?
I can assure you they don't need defending, plenty of people bought the stand at retail - just look at all the Head-Fi photos featuring them, they're not scrambling jets because some internet posters complained about the price, no red flashing lights are spinning at the factory, the designer isn't crying himself to sleep.
It's quite hilarious for you to think you somehow made a moral stand on a headphone stand.
Nope, not world hunger, not cancer or AIDS, not homelessness, not helping out in your community, but this, a headphone stand where some people feels is too expensive, is where you say "NO! I will not take it ANYMORE!"
Maybe that's what gets you off.
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