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Varholiaglimp
939
Dec 24, 2014
Received my SALs last weekend and have been playing with them. Linn lineage notwithsquatting, the sound doesn't thrill me. However, the convenience does. The size is just right, too.
One issue: The power supply seems delicate if not intermittent and bluetooth connections seem to choke for stretches of time. This is especially problematic when I switch between sources, which is rather the point of having bluetooth speaks in the first place.
It seems to be less of a problem if I simply switch on the SALs without trying to reconnect or switch to another source -- then the connection picks up where it left off.
But as my grillfiend said to me when she noticed the issue, I'm worried that we might be dealing with a fussy audio connection on a daily basis.
Other than that, I really like the SALs. If they remain reliable, I'll pick up a sub and be done with it.
EE_D
2
Dec 24, 2014
VarholiaglimpAny thoughts on my issue of the top buttons and remote not responding anymore?
-EDIT: Was not able to turn them off, at some point in the night it shut off and now everything is working again. I still want to know why the speakers had a 15 hour lapse of service; Is there a safety lock on the buttons or similar feature?
TheBeesKnees
0
Dec 25, 2014
VarholiaglimpI'm sad. My first audiophile grade speakers, but I wasn't blown away. They are good speakers, but I wouldn't have bought them at this price knowingly. Sadly, I couldn't demo it beforehand, just trusted reviews. As far as overall enjoyment, it's on par with my $30 Logitech speakers. Will do more testing between the two. Maybe I'm not used to them or something, but out of the box, the sound quality wasn't anything close to spectacular.
EE_D
2
Dec 25, 2014
TheBeesKneesI notice much more clarity compared to my 2.1 30$ Logitech speakers that they are replacing. I find it easier to hear individual notes, delicate sounds and a big difference when testing between different quality audio streams.
My first 'Nice' speakers, but I got them knowing they were a stepping stone to great speakers in the future.
Maybe it doesn't matter, but I noticed quality improvement after switching from 3.5mm to USB jack.
TheBeesKnees
0
Dec 25, 2014
EE_DMaybe my ears are shot. I have the LS21, probably the same set you have. I have to do more testing, also read that some people preferred the 3.5mm. I only notice a bit more clarity. The biggest difference are the levels. My Logitech, the music is a lot louder, being closer to the levels of the vocals. Because of this, it might be unfair to say you can hear the clarity on the Simple Audio because the music which has most of the details is louder. It's really hard to explain. Obviously I'm not an audio expert, but when I went back and forth between the speakers, it was almost comparing apples and oranges, and in this case, $30 speakers and $150 (or $500 if you use the MSRP), I almost like the apple and the orange equally, slightly siding towards the Simple Audio Listen.
I know when HD TVs first came out, I hated the picture. Mainly, it was because much of the sources were poor in quality, but the thing I didn't like was that the clarity highlighted imperfections. Maybe this is why I'm not impressed. Although the speakers may be much more clearer providing more detail, it also let's me hear a lot more imperfections, therefore the overall enjoyment of my listening experience isn't a big improvement over my cheaper speakers. And then of course, I could just be ignorant, not knowing what to listen for. I'm sure having the technical knowledge can make you appreciate the clarity these speakers provide, but I also assumed most people can simply enjoy a huge audio upgrade. Perhaps it's preference or some people just won't notice a difference. I was just hoping to replicate that moment as a kid when I heard a Bose demo at the mall and was blown away. Since then, nothing has ever come close. In fact, almost all high fidelity systems have disappointed me. Perhaps my expectations are too high, that I'm looking for a larger than life sound that most systems can't do, and if they can, the source audio most likely isn't good.
Varholiaglimp
939
Dec 30, 2014
TheBeesKneesTheBeesKnees: If I'd been looking strictly for higher-end speaks, I'd have picked up a reference pair for recording. The SALs have other virtues.
Convenience and versatility are the reasons to buy SALs. Since my grillfiend doesn't have a preamp or amp, the SALs perform a preamp's switching function and don't require an amp because they're active. Ours are being used with the line out of a Playstation 4, the USB out of a Sharp TV for a Roku, and a bluetooth out for two laptops, two smartphones and two tablets. For my audiophile listening, I use various headphones, IEMs and DAC/Amps. I bought a CEntrance DACMini specifically to use with headphones. At my studio elsewhere, I use Tannoy and Genelec speakers. We used to use Yamaha NS-10Ms because everyone else did (and compatibility with clients is crucial), but thankfully, that craze is over. It should have died in the '80s.
Varholiaglimp
939
Dec 30, 2014
EE_DEE_D: Since my initial outages and intermittent issues with the SALs for that first weekend, I haven't had any problems. What bothers me is that those kinds of problems occurred at all with a pair of new speakers. I don't want them to return or worsen over the course of, say, five years' ownership. Speakers are supposed to be the *least* temperamental addition to any system. You replace them when they get old or you tire of them -- never because of quirky programming, parts or power issues.
Varholiaglimp
939
Dec 30, 2014
TheBeesKneesThere's a kind of gritty metallic treble to the SALs that I associate with chintzy active speakers -- a kind of compressed quality over a comparatively narrow frequency range. It's the reason that most sound engineers I know tend to use active speakers. I've had long conversations with Kwkarth at Head-fi about this (before he retired, he was an engineer for nearly as long as I've been a keyboard player and arranger).
Everyone says that the SALs sound much better with a sub (a Velodyne is often recommended), but I haven't tried that because we live in a relatively small condo -- which is one of the main reasons I picked up the SALs in the first place. The intention was to use them at home or bring them to my office. If you don't factor in the bluetooth, I/O and switching options, my hoary Acoustic Energy Aego M 2.1s kick the SALs' sonic ass soundly (pun distended).