I was going to properly reply to your wall of text and realized all you have done is inject your personal opinion and try to pine it off as objective truth with a lot of baseless assumptions. Like I stated, I have the THX and the d50s.
This is evidence that you either didn't read my post, or have literally no idea what I was saying. There was no opinions in my post to the relevant to the topics you raised in this reply.
The whole post I wrote up, was asking a yes or no question if you fully understand what I saying. I didn't ask if you agree, I asked in various forms at the end to make 100% sure you knew that I was specifically asking if you simply understand what I wrote at all. And then you pull this hypocrisy, and simply refuse to even acknowledge even if you understood what I wrote. This logically can only mean you have no idea what I was saying (which is fine, and I now know the answer is "no" to my question about if you understand what I was saying). Or you simply have not read what I wrote.
In an effort to demonstrate good will/faith, I am going to address yet again issues present you seem to repeated in your first post. You don't have to reply, and that's fine seeing as how you didn't confirm you understood what my prior post even means. I'm doing this in case you change your mind, or someone else reads this and thinks I am dodging. Also.. this will be my last post if you don't confirm (if you reply) that you understood what I am saying (AGAIN I am not asking you to agree, all I ask is confirmation if you comprehend what is being told to you). If you do reply with confirmation, then we can talk about points we disagree on.
Like I stated, I have the THX and the d50s. They're objectively great. But I like my distortions as they're pleasing to my ears. So why worry about DSP when I can get MY desired effect from analog devices? Let alone, what if my source doesn't offer DSP or PEQ? That seems very limiting when I have analog devices that serve MY purpose for all of my other gear. I'm not always tethered to a laptop when I am enjoying music. Especially when traveling or flying.
I explained to you, because going the DSP route is more rational/economical at the very least, and can be done to all devices consistently, without having to play the lottery on what sort of distortions are present on poor performing devices like tube amps for example. Also "your source not offering PEQ or DSP" is a bit silly in the modern day, but absolutely fine and possible. But that means you're loaded with money and can afford multiple different setups, in which case this whole discussion is pointless if your funds allow you to have so many devices, yet for some reason not a single source with DSP/PEQ. Again, not impossible, just a bit weird in the modern day in the same way someone saying they don't use the internet or have a cellphone, yet live in a major city or town even.
No one is saying have a super computer strapped to your back along with your THX 789. This is a completely absurd strawman of my argument at worst, or a very uncharitable interpretation of what I was saying (then again you never confirmed even if you read or understood what I said, so it doesn't matter).
As I stated above, context matters and it seems lost on you. At least in regards to this conversation. I mean, you said it yourself. IF you want consistency. Maybe how I'm feeling today, I don't. I am a human and ruled by inconsistency. I guess I'll just accept all those funny looks as I and many millions of people on this planet enjoy our hardware flaws. Weird how something like that is so common. Super weird.
Interesting how context matters, I had no idea.. /s
Also you give yourself a plausible context for examples in this reply. But then talk to me and attempt to retort my ideas with "but airplane rides tho". Super weird right??
And yet again, like I stated above, you people have such strong opinions about equipment you have never heard. Also super weird. But that must be your objectivity poking through.
"Objectivists amirite? LuL"
.. This isn't even an argument, at best a diversionary tactic, at worst an ad hom. Super weird how people do that when their arguments don't hold much water right? Super duper weird.
And your photography example is quite frankly, dumb. Again, more than just digital cameras exist and are VERY popular. And yet somehow, still manage to take amazing photos. Also weird.
Here's the first indication you read some part of my post and understood there was mention of photography. Beyond that, not much else it seems.
I draw analogy, Raw file for post processing, vs compressed JPEG not something someone would do when editing photos when given the choice... You now talk about "digital cameras existing, very popular, amazing photos, much wow."
The only weird thing here is your statement was meme levels of obliviousness. Next time you want to call something dumb, explain why. Dont start talking to me about what kind of cameras exist, or their popularity, or "amazing photos". Address the stupidity you claim exists in the analogy, not this non sequitur.
So, yes, I understand what you are saying here. I just disagree. And I don't really care. Especially considering your condescending attitude when I outright said the magic words, "this is all just my opinion." But I keep forgetting reading comprehension is hard for folks that seem holier than thou.
I think everyone even remotely reading this sees AT LEAST for the photography example, is that YOU HAVE NO IDEA what you're reading, or completely misunderstand what is being conveyed to you. Also "I don't care" is a lie, otherwise you wouldn't be replying. Also "condescending"? Are you literally insane? Look at the tone of your reply. You're 100% tone deaf if you think I an condescending. I approached you like I would a normal stranger on the street to talk to. Not like some raving lunatic that you seem to come across as now with lies and ad homs (to which I am now returning the favor with my own ad homs due to the sheer disbelief of your incompetency).
And you're going to talk to be about reading comprehension lack? You're literally that - personified.. (or you're just lying, since that's the only other possibility I mentioned before, and if that's the case, then sorry for implying you have reading comprehension issues, but if you're not lying, then the criticism remains).
And for the record, maybe I just don't care about "maximum fidelity" in a given moment and just want to tune out and listen to some tunes? Or like I stated with my above "stack of distortions" with the Elex, just use my Force powers and smack things with my lightsaber while relaxing and playing some Star Wars. If you can't understand something so human and basic, then the issue is you, my friend.
"And for the record" that whole paragraph was irrational. It seems to imply none of your Force power smacking could ever happen if your audio wasn't "maximum fidelity" as you put it. Do you see how ridiculous your implications sound. Like "not being able to tune out, and listen to some tunes" isn't possible with hearing sound as true to the recording as possible.
This is precisely why I ask if you understand what was being told to you. Just to gauge if you have any reasoning capacity.
But then again, stacking distortions seems to go great, in that case, if you would honestly like, I have some DSP corrections i can convert for your music files (sorry I can't do it to your latest EA Star Wars game, or BFII or whatever Star Wars game you're playing atm). I can double, or heck if you want, quadruple the harmonic distortions so when you tune out next time, I presume you might imagine you're tuned out as if you hit some active substances with how tuned out these distortions levels will be. (Super weird right, how I also have a taste for the sound of older analogue devices right? You would think I am some "clean sound" lover under all circumstances? Judging people rocks tho amirite? Super weird!)
See unlike your perplexing preference for distortion, fidelity has no actual downside in terms of listening pleasure. But who knows, maybe you think distortions are the same, maybe you'll let me convert your library for distortion harmonics that reach 0dbFS artifacts, can't have too much of a good thing for "tuning out" right?
I don't really care to converse with you further about any of this.
You said that before, and if the last time you said it wasn't confirmation of you lying. This now without any shadow of a doubt is 100% confirmation.
Continue to chop up and dissect my current and previous responses to your heart's content while yelling into the void as I don't have the energy to prove anything that I've typed out to "make sense to you." We get it dude. You have your very strong opinion about all of this and that's rad or whatever, but you're the only essentially telling people how to enjoy something per your "objective" proclivities because you "don't get it and it just doesn't make sense." Cool. So, you do you, as I'm moving on. Have a good one, either way. And I mean that. No hard feelings or whatever as we will never agree or understand one another it seems on this front.
Sorry but "having a good one" after the ad homs, the disrespectful start where you couldn't even at least confirm if you simply understood my first reply to you... is simply bs'ing me to my face in order to come across as if you're being reasonable. You don't get to keep the "reasonable" or "charitable discourse" high ground just by wishing me well at the end. That's just hallow nonsense.
You also hypocritically talk about me having a strong opinion of stuff. Why you keep saying this I wish I had an idea. Let me demonstrate to you why this is a pointless and essentially dumb declaratory statement.
1) IF I didn't have "strong opinions" then my arguments would hold no weight, and anyone with serious and charitable discourse in mind would never engage with me with anything more than a comedic approach that they themselves wouldn't take serious. So how you figure strong opinions here are bad.. goodness only knows.
2) If I have "strong opinions", why would that be bad, and why would you need to mention it multiple times. The actual content of my post was place with very little opinionated interpretations, they were all logically substantiated. ALL of such substantiations were ignored, straw-manned, or hypocritically tone deaf when you addressed them, or simply due to your lack in comprehension, simply misplaced your own criticism like you did with the ONE attempt you made at the photography topic to which you miserably botched.
So please, drop this "strong opinions" nonsense statements, they do nothing to further your argument. Also you come across as a hypocrit because you imply you don't have strong opinions. To which case you're simply mouthing off random nonsense if indeed you don't have strong opinions, or should have very little objection to folks shutting them down since you don't feel strongly about them.
Then you make the next massive blunder, by ascribing something to me to which if you read my post, I never said. And I can prove your fallacious nonsense right now:
You say: We get it dude. You have your very strong opinion about all of this and that's rad or whatever, but you're the only essentially telling people how to enjoy something per your "objective" proclivities because you "don't get it and it just doesn't make sense.
And my original post I mention multiple times:
"Sure you can enjoy the flaws an amp has. No one is concerned with that, you have your own taste, and no one need berate anyone for that."
"AGAIN I repeat.. No one should berate you for preferences, or if you want to use an amp to color your sound, or if you want to use an amp as a weapon if you feel like. That's your preference, and taste is pointless to debate in matters of technicality."
There are two more pieces of evidence of you never read my post, or simply having reading comprehension issues that you -like the hypocrite you are- ascribed to me). And direct proof of the fallacious statement you made about "how I am telling people how to enjoy something".
Cool. So, you do you, as I'm moving on. Have a good one, either way. And I mean that. No hard feelings or whatever as we will never agree or understand one another it seems on this front.
This is the last part of your post, to which I can only reply: No thank you to your fake "no hard feelings" half assed attempt at reconciliation. Perhaps the most fake attempt at saving face I've seen in months and an attempt at making yourself seem reasonable. And the last sentence about "as we will never agree or understand one another", that is arguably your biggest blunder, and similarly to people who hold beliefs like yourself.
My beliefs are ready to change at any time first off. Second, about understanding, I don't think I've ever done a better job at demonstrating demonstrably what someone who lacks understanding looks like (you in this case if you're not following). Again, we don't have to get along in order to humbly give interpretations. I still am ready to take back what I said about you not understanding most of my post (as some of it you did read and clearly demonstrate you either dont understand or are flat out lying). But there is still the chance I am wrong about a portion of that where I said in the begining you simply didn't read my post, so theres no way you could make a valid reply. Which of these is the actual truth. That doesn't concern me at this point.
I won't pretend to care what kind of day/night you have by telling you to have a good one or bad one and risk looking fake. I'll only leave by saying, at least try to do people the favor of answering their questions next time you engage in discourse. Dont conjure a whole story of what you think they're trying to say. Do as I did and address EVERYTHING. THAT is how proper discourse with honest people is done. Not what you were doing.