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FOBean
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Jan 29, 2018
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I have a compare question regarding the Exclusive 5's and the Nuforce EDC IEM's. I already own the EDC IEM's, so is it really worth it for me to get the Exclusive 5's? Which one sounds better, to put it bluntly?
I've been saving up for a pair of the Nuforce HEM 2's or 4's for their BA Drivers, (found the Red HEM 2 brand new for $100/Shipped online and a used pair of the HEM 4 in good condition on eBay for $115 FWIW), mainly because I love that EDC sound, which is very clean and detailed IMO!
And on top of that, I have accessories from 2x EDC IEM's packages since I had a busted right IEM on my original pair, and Massdrop sent me a new package of the EDC's without sending the busted pair back to them, so kudos again to Massdrop πŸ‘), and I wanted to take advantage of all of the Nuforce accessories that I now have and can use on their EDC/Dynamic IEM's and the whole HEM lineup, like that braided cable without the mic!
So if anyone has experience with both the EDC IEM's AND the TFZ Exclusive 5's, I'd love to hear from you 🎧 Should I grab another pair of $60 IEM's, or just save up for some nicer BA Drivers? I was also looking at Westone BA IEM's, but I'm kinda scared to use the MMCX connector's because of all the bad reviews I've read about those connector's online!
BTW, I'm mostly listening to HQ audience Recordings of shows/concerts that I make myself with HQ mics, cables, preamps and recorders. So ideally I want some IEM's that have a good balance throughout the spectrum (Lows>mids>highs) and a pretty neutral sound, yet still be musical sounding as well, with a good low-end Extension that decays quickly and isn't beats by Dre bass heavyπŸ˜‰!
My listening setup is as follows:
Sony Walkman NW-A35>Custom Right Angle 1/8" cable>FiiO E11K HP Amp>Nuforce EDC IEM's/Monster iSport Victory earbuds>Comply Isolation+ tips on both IEM's!
Thanks in advance for any help you can give me πŸ˜ŽπŸ˜‡
Brandon Bean Fisher
Jan 29, 2018
Eli35
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Jan 29, 2018
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I can't tell about Nuforce's, but I've owned and listened the Exclusive 5 for some months and, according to your preferences, I suggest you to stay away from them. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE these beauties, from the looks to the sound, the fit, accessories & packaging, everything is 10/10 for me given the price tag. BUT they have a clearly v-shaped sound signature, with super-deep bass and bright highs, slighly recessed mids, and while they have great clarity and wider than usual soundstage, they might not fit your desired "balanced" sound.
If you want a suggestion, in the sub-$50 price range there's one IEM that might be a great match for you: Tin Audio T2. They have great build quality, a MMCX detachable cable that can be worn over-ear or straight-down (the connector is good, don't worry), and the sound is almost perfectly balanced with enought bass presence, a touch of brightness for some musicality, but forward warm-ish mids that makes them one of the most natural sounding IEMs I've ever heard. And they cost $50 with free shipping on AliExpress! Some reviews here: https://audiobudget.com/product/TINAudio/T2 http://www.aproear.co.uk/tinaudio-t2/
Both websites have a lot of budget IEMs compared, and as you can see they rate the Tin Audio T2 as one of the best (if not THE best). I suggest you to check them out when you wanna spend a few bucks on some chi-fi stuff, but from what you said, T2 seems to be your perfect IEMs. Good luck!
Jan 29, 2018
FOBean
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Jan 29, 2018
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Wowza, thanks sooo much for the great review! I REALLY appreciate that πŸ˜ŽπŸ‘ I'm going to check the T2's out for sure! I just wish I hadn't heard so many negative things about the MMCX connector's! But if you think that they're a solid connection, then I might actually save up for some Westone UM Pro 10 or 20's, or try the T2's first to see how much I like the MMCX connector's, before spending $100-$200 on some Westone's or Nuforce HEM Series!
Thanks again for the awesome review! Much appreciated broπŸŽ§πŸ˜‰
Bean
Jan 29, 2018
SkyzoR
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Jan 30, 2018
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I have both and I purchased the Nuforce EDC first, it has better clarity than the TFZ and was more neutral sounding. The TFZ I enjoy more because of the bass response and the more V shape curve which suited my main genre of hip hop. I think you'll enjoy the EDC more since its fairly balanced and should better suit your needs. But you should check up some more reviews since I'm not an expert :)
Jan 30, 2018
FOBean
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Jan 30, 2018
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Do you think that it's worth saving up for the Nuforce HEM Series? I'll probably just get the single BA drivers version (HEM2) for $100/new/Shipped. The reviews I've read said that the HEM2 is warmer sounding than the HEM 1 and 4.
And I'm definitely going to check out the Tin Audio T2 as well, so thanks again to Eli35 for the heads up on those!
I'm just not sure where to take my next step??? Would the T2's be an upgrade to the HEM Series?
I definitely want to stick with a BA driver setup this time around, since I already have two pairs of dynamic drivers, so please take that into consideration as well! That's exactly why I wanted the Nuforce HEM Series or some Westone BA IEM's!
Jan 30, 2018
SkyzoR
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Jan 30, 2018
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Sorry FOBean I don't really know much about the other series so I can't advise you in that regard.
Jan 30, 2018
Eli35
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Jan 30, 2018
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If you're looking for a balanced sounding IEM, I suggest you to check the T2 before buying anything more expensive. If you're 100% sure you wanna spend twice the price of the T2 on something, it might be worth getting the HEM2, but it's a huge risk. Also, from my experience, single-BA headphones usually sound "boring" and lack a lot of bass presence and treble sparkle: I tried two well-rated single-BA IEMs and didn't like them, but YMMV. Some other remarkable sub-$50 hybrid (dynamic + BA) IEMs are BossHifi B3, E-MI CI880 and Ty Hi-Z G3 (check www.aproear.co.uk for more info on these).
Final note, look at these Head-Fi reviews of the T2: https://www.head-fi.org/showcase/tinaudio-t2.22715/ Another random review: https://primeaudio.org/tinaudio-t2-dual-dynamic-driver-review/
Jan 30, 2018
FOBean
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Feb 4, 2018
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Thanks for the info bro, much appreciated!
I've looked over the T2 pretty good, and I just have one question! Do you know which size eartips that the T2's are? I will only use Comply tips with Waxguard at this point in my life, and I can't find any info on the size of the T2 ear nozzle? My ears are a very strange design, in that the opening of my ear canal is huge (and my right ear is bigger than my left, at least with regards to the opening and ear canal), but the ear canal itself is very small! So I NEED Large size Comply tips. That's probably why NO silicone tips have EVER properly sealed my ears, and the reason I must use Comply tips from now on, FWIW πŸ˜ŽπŸ‘πŸŽ§ Since using the Comply tips, my EDC and iSport Victory IEM's/earbuds are a night and day difference compared to the POS silicone tips, with much better clarity and resolution and bass response!
So if you or anyone else knows which size the nozzle is of the T2, I'd really appreciate it! My Nuforce EDC IEM's are a size 100 (also the smallest size of any IEM's to my knowledge), and they are absolutely perfect for my ear canals! My Monster iSport Victory earbuds are a size 200, and even that is a bit big for my ears! Even with the isolation+ and comfort+ Comply tips, the 200's are almost too big! So I'd love to stay around a 100 size nozzle if possible! That's just another reason I love the Westone's too, because they're a size 100 just like my EDC IEM's are!
I was really interested in the FiiO F9/F9 Pro's, until I looked on the Comply website and noticed that they have massive size 500 tips. So without wasting my money on those, I can pretty much guarantee that they WON'T work for my ears! Which is a shame because they're hybrids, and have 2x BA Drivers, and 1x dynamic Driver, so those hybrids have me intrigued as hell too, since they're pretty much the best of both worlds!!!
And I'm still not sure what to buy honestly??? Not sure if I want to get the Nuforce HEM 2 QUICKLY, or wait until the next Nuforce Primo 8 drop for $150 for quad BA Drivers per ear, but have to wait a few months to get them? Or just buy another pair of $50 IEM's (T2's) and settle for a 3rd pair of dynamic drivers? Not knowing the T2 nozzle size, them being another pair of dynamic drivers, AND reading on Penon Audio that you have to MOD them and cover the one vent holes, to experience the low-end that they're loved for, has me looking at other options right now!
In the end, I might just save up for the Nuforce Primo 8's, which are quad BA Drivers, and just be done with it! I really don't need more than 3x pairs of IEM's, so I just want to make sure that whatever I get next, I'm going to LOVE πŸ˜‰ Or I can just save up around $200 and buy the Primo 8 whenever I want to on eBay, since there seems to be an abundance of them on there brand new still sealed, for around $200 Exactly!
Sorry for the super long post too. I'm just really confused on which step i want to take next, and I want to make sure that whatever I end up buying, is frickin AWESOME and really reveals the little nuances of my HQ Recordings!
BTW, Here's a link to my last Recording that I made on NYE (with Schoeps mics and Cables and a new SD Mixpre6 recorder) πŸ˜ŽπŸ˜€
https://archive.org/details/lotus2017-12-31.mk4.60v-pfa.mixpre6.bean.flac2496
Feb 4, 2018
Eli35
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Feb 5, 2018
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Hey, let's go step by step: - the Tin Audio T2 come with memory foam tips, Comply-like quality (I've bought some Comply tips in the past). The nozzle is 6mm wide according to Igor from Audiobudget (https://audiobudget.com/product/TINAudio/T2), if that's useful for you. The included tips are very similar in size than those I used on the Dunu Titan 1, not fully sure since I don't have both here to compare. - Price is usually not strictly related to "liking" in the audio world, since audio is subjective and not everybody likes the same thing. So since you really want something that seems to be exactly what the T2 is, a very balanced IEM, I suggest you to get it, and given the price tag it's a low risk - high reward investment, worst case scenario you wasted under $50 on a solid IEM that you'll probably be able to sell online (or give away to some friend, whatever). - I've been hearing your recording, cool sound! Good job :)
Feb 5, 2018
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