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YO ANYONE WHO HAS HAD SUNDARA THIS OR SUNDARA.
This bro hands down, yeah you do have to mod a bit but its worth it
The Phantoms have horribly scooped upper mids / lower treble. I prefer my Sundaras any day.
Yo I already got em on the 2nd of dec. Really great headphones. I know the dt177x is closed back but the sundaras really hit those outta the park man. Really good. I feel like a real upgrade to the sundaras would probably be a focal elex/clear or some zmf. Looking at the koss esp. or audio technica r70x rn though.
Elex is most definitely an upgrade, in my opinion, over the Sundara, and quite a bit over the Phantom...
Elex > Sundara >> Thieaudio Phantom