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RouseHouse1013
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Aug 8, 2018
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Pretty crazy that this can do DSD256 while the more expensive D30 can only do up to 128. Also 32-bit PCM to the D30's 24 bit max.
Aug 8, 2018
Eli35
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Sep 18, 2018
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Yeah, but... A) do you really have any DSD256 and/or 32-bit audio files? I don't, probably won't, and even if I did I really REALLY doubt I could hear any difference between that and a reasonably good 24-bit FLAC, even using TOTL gear. B) D30 measures way better than D10, mostly because of the separate power supply, instead of getting powered through the same USB port used for data transfer.
Given the price difference, I'd stick to the D30 and forget about buying a better DAC unless I wanted to go full balanced (which I probably won't in a near future).
Sep 18, 2018
RouseHouse1013
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Sep 18, 2018
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I have the D30 and won't be getting the D10, I only found the max capabilities interesting given the price difference in the 2 DACs. I do have a couple of sample DSD256 files I got to test my Fiio Q5 but the marginal difference isn't worth the extra file size or cost of buying those files.
Sep 18, 2018
Eli35
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Sep 18, 2018
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I agree. My guess for the reason D10 having more codec capabilities is that it features a newer chipset than the older D30, but newer doesn't means better, and circuit design plays a huge role in DAC, that's why even a newer chipset can measure worse than an older one.
Sep 18, 2018
zep483
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Sep 19, 2018
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Could always get a schitt wyrd for a d10... might give you the best of both worlds.
Sep 19, 2018
Caiz
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Oct 15, 2018
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Do we know if anyone has measured the quality of implementations? Say at various sample formats, 16bit@44.1khz, 23bit@192khz, ect?
Oct 15, 2018
zep483
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Oct 15, 2018
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Not that I know of... Also I'm wondering if D10 works with Volumino Raspberry PI player... the D30 doesn't work with DSD for this... Kind of a pain in the butt. If the D10 works I may switch. Apparently for the D30 to play DSD, it is only supported with its windows plugin, not lynx.
Oct 15, 2018
Caiz
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Oct 15, 2018
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hmm, if you are to buy it i'd make sure i would go with someone who has a money back guarantee. A fellow member here, Shocky, was reporting issues like that your reporting with the D30, when using his D10. https://www.massdrop.com/buy/topping-d10/talk/2231956?utm_campaign=Discussion%3A%20User%20Replied&utm_source=SparkPost&utm_medium=email&utm_term=Discussion%3A%20User%20Replied&utm_content=1539588980780.700984579642743221940859&referer=P3226B&utm_content=1539588980780.700984579642743221940859 That said, Topping does offer firmware updates for some devices, i might check with them to see if you can get full support out of the device for your uses.. Afterall, im sure they intend to produce a good device and if there is a means for improvement, they might just peruse it, for anyone, to make a more competitive device which better serves., Or maybe if you like they can get you a refund to a product which would work like that.., On the otherhand, if you see at the audiosciencereviews forum, Amirs measurements of the Topping Taishan DAC device were pretty eye opening.., The short of it; didn't perform well, t least under his half-labeled test. So, i'm not sure it's fine to just "leave it to topping" lol. so much as make sure you have a written guarantee, at least. ;-)
Oct 15, 2018
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