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Topping has gained a loyal following for its line of accurate, competitively priced DACs, which includes the DX7 series and the D30. Now, this award-winning line includes the Topping D70 and D70 BT Read More
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verifonixYou lose the ground pin but its more the use case for headphone cables. They are generally too short and not layed in such a manor that they will pick up much noise to cancel. I guess there might be some folks with 20ft custom cables and a shite environment that get some small benefit.
Really good performance https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/review-and-measurements-of-the-topping-d70-dac.7694/ lowest noise floor of AK4497 measured yet. Only a couple dB less dynamic range than $1000 SMSL D1. Its only lacking part is some intermodulation distortion at full output. Putting the output down a bit yields 112+dB SINAD (again about equal to much more expensive D1)!
For the iconic/blazing $420 price this seems worth it if you need a stellar balanced dac.
You make a lot of assumptions about what I think sounds different (and better) than something else for somebody proclaiming to be objective. And again, in person... you'd look the fool. This includes me eschewing a studio/professional DAC that costs thousands for the one that's in one of my streaming devices, or how I rotate gear around here THAT I ALREADY OWN AND HAVE NOTHING TO GAIN from using..simply by which sounds best in which system/context.
I edited my previous comment, but I wanted to make a new post. After comparison, the d70 is less resolving than the sdac. It sounds as though Topping was so intent on making sure it wasn't harsh, they gimped the akm 4497 and applied a film over the sound. The sdac is not always easy on the ears, but it is honest.
With the sdac, listening to Heifetz with the orchestra, it sounds like I'm at the hall. When I listen with the D70, I hear a plastic rendition of the recording, like the plastic covers old grandmother's use over their couches. Transients are slower and don't quite snap on the d70, dynamics are compressed slightly as well
Sdac bass response is muddy and imagining is not as pinpoint as the d70. However, I'm very disappointed that even in this price range Topping does not present a dac more capable on all fronts than the $80 sdac.
I originally wanted the find a dac to push the CTH to a new level, thankfully the sdac is built in. It seems buying Chinese dacs are more about the features and less about the sound (Su-8 and D70). I suggest passing on this one and looking at any other country to built an actual hi-fi dac.
If anyone gets a chance to compare this D70 with the RME-ADI 2, please respond with your thoughts. :) Torn between the two, don't really NEED the built in amp or eq of the RME and like the price difference in favor of the D70, but ultimately the decision would be upon actual dac performance/sound difference. :)
Fair enough!
Dealing when customer support issues could also pose a.. issue in my mind. Language barrier, sending a unit to China and all that.
Either way, I doubt I will be buying anything Audio-gd as my want list doesn't include their gear.
I will update here on thoughts of the Airist R2R though, hopefully early September when it arrives.
ls13cocoI’m not speaking from experience here, but one thing I’ve heard is that the RME DAC/amp combo is particularly brilliant for use with very efficient, high end IEMs.
I too am facing the same decision between the D70 and the RME. And I say this as one who has the THX 789 on order. If I was only concerned about driving my HD800S headphones, the relative cost savings of the D70/THX 789 would be hard to pass up. But also being a Campfire Solaris owner, I wonder if the extra expense of the RME/THX 789 combo isn’t worth it given the added features and flexibility.
I'm surprised this hasn't been asked yet.... but anyone know how this compares against it's schiit equivalent, the bifrost, bifrost multi, or maybe even the Gungir???
I plan on hooking these up to my active emotiva 6s's and sub, fed through a PC as the source. Not sure if there are any better reccomendations for a DAC for this type of setup.... i know these weren't necessarily designed to be used with anything other than headphones, but not sure what else could fit the bill for this type of setup.
Thanks so much for your input. I've heard this before, but it doesn't get covered enough to really explain it in any detail. It seems my ear tends to favor clarity above all else, so i'm assuming that if something measures well, my ear would favor it. I've done searches on R2R and delta sigma, but it hasn't helped my understanding any on the whole measured dac vs poorly measuring dac and why a "poor" measuring dac would still sound better.
HispanicPanicThat tells me that you need to listen to a couple of DACs and determine for yourself what sounds best to you.
Despite all of the Schiit-bashing that happens, their sound is preferable to me. But I’ve had to chance to listen to a small number of DACs (both DS and R2R) and I preferred the sound from the Schiit product line.
But ultimately, form an opinion based on your listening results and you can explain why you prefer one DAC over another.
A BIG mistake is to blindly believe a graph and assume a unit sounds horrible just because you were told that. You can always tell who never listened to a particular DAC by how much they spout numbers and graphs. Someone who has auditioned a product can tell you what they liked or didn’t like about a product.
But your listening preferences are what matters most.
This Topping D70 DAC paired with the 789 THX AAA via balanced interconnects, and you'll have one of the best equipment setups in headphone hifi audio.
AKM is a great sounding chip, with far less distortion in the midrange than the ESS chips. And seeing that this model has 2 AK4497 DAC chips (AKM's flagship DAC chip). Another great feature of this DAC is the remote control and preamp function. I have the DX3 Pro, and I can tell you that having the remote is amazing in terms of changing inputs and volume adjustment.
Totally agree. The DX3 Pro is the most versatile DAC/AMP out there; great build and sound quality, input options, and output power. And the screen is awesome!
I don't feel the need to own any other equipment since I bought mine just over a month ago :)