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Topping D70 & D70 BT DAC

Topping D70 & D70 BT DAC

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Topping has gained a loyal following for its line of accurate, competitively priced DACs, which includes the DX7 series and the D30. Now, this award-winning line includes the Topping D70 and D70 BT Read More

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Deepspace57
52
Jun 9, 2019
Single ES9038PRO vs Dual AK4497; what do you think?
06S2k07Si
19
Jul 4, 2019
It appears as though Topping has corrected this issue...at least on the replacement D50s... https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/review-and-measurements-of-new-topping-d50s-dac.7914/

JJayJJ
472
Jul 5, 2019
06S2k07SiThey have indeed, and added a remote, and Bluetooth input. Absolutely wonderful refresh of an already great DAC.
ludachris
314
Jul 5, 2019
This will be my first dac paired with my thx amp and monoprice liquid platinum amp. 👌👌👌
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verifonix
1181
Aug 8, 2019
Ah yes I did mean the dual 3-pin variant. Actually doesn't the 4-pin one use hot/cold hot/cold? All it loses is its ground pin?
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verifonixYou lose the ground pin but its more the use case for headphone cables. They are generally too short and not layed in such a manor that they will pick up much noise to cancel. I guess there might be some folks with 20ft custom cables and a shite environment that get some small benefit.
Ice_IX
10
Jun 7, 2019
I don’t see any reviews for this, would this be a good pairing with the 789 Linear Amplifier?
wWFRAGWw
18
Nov 15, 2019
Are u still running the su8 with the 789
BadSeedTech
271
Nov 18, 2019
wWFRAGWwI am, yeah. I run it and Airist/ZDT Jr. stack as well. Really, really enjoy the SU-8/789 stack though - its my workhorse.
verifonix
1181
Jun 7, 2019
Really good performance https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/review-and-measurements-of-the-topping-d70-dac.7694/ lowest noise floor of AK4497 measured yet. Only a couple dB less dynamic range than $1000 SMSL D1. Its only lacking part is some intermodulation distortion at full output. Putting the output down a bit yields 112+dB SINAD (again about equal to much more expensive D1)! For the iconic/blazing $420 price this seems worth it if you need a stellar balanced dac.
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JohnVF
39
Jun 29, 2019
You make a lot of assumptions about what I think sounds different (and better) than something else for somebody proclaiming to be objective. And again, in person... you'd look the fool. This includes me eschewing a studio/professional DAC that costs thousands for the one that's in one of my streaming devices, or how I rotate gear around here THAT I ALREADY OWN AND HAVE NOTHING TO GAIN from using..simply by which sounds best in which system/context.
johnnychendesign
68
Feb 12, 2021
What dac would you recommend for biggest sound stage and around 500 usd?
Hyp0xia
23
Jun 8, 2019
Do the RCA and XLR outputs operate simultaneously or is there an option to switch between them?
Helpbot
310
Oct 25, 2019
you are flip[ing the power button in the back right? not the button in the front :)
cychai
0
Aug 25, 2020
Use the power switch at the back side, not the front power button
Helpbot
310
Apr 17, 2020
I edited my previous comment, but I wanted to make a new post. After comparison, the d70 is less resolving than the sdac. It sounds as though Topping was so intent on making sure it wasn't harsh, they gimped the akm 4497 and applied a film over the sound. The sdac is not always easy on the ears, but it is honest. With the sdac, listening to Heifetz with the orchestra, it sounds like I'm at the hall. When I listen with the D70, I hear a plastic rendition of the recording, like the plastic covers old grandmother's use over their couches. Transients are slower and don't quite snap on the d70, dynamics are compressed slightly as well Sdac bass response is muddy and imagining is not as pinpoint as the d70. However, I'm very disappointed that even in this price range Topping does not present a dac more capable on all fronts than the $80 sdac. I originally wanted the find a dac to push the CTH to a new level, thankfully the sdac is built in. It seems buying Chinese dacs are more about the features and less about the sound (Su-8 and D70). I suggest passing on this one and looking at any other country to built an actual hi-fi dac.
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racheski
248
Jun 9, 2020
Was mentioned on an ASR forum, could be wrong about that, but it’s def not based in Poland :)
Badmutha
80
Jun 10, 2020
racheskiChina bad, America good /s
ls13coco
79
Aug 10, 2019
If anyone gets a chance to compare this D70 with the RME-ADI 2, please respond with your thoughts. :) Torn between the two, don't really NEED the built in amp or eq of the RME and like the price difference in favor of the D70, but ultimately the decision would be upon actual dac performance/sound difference. :)
ls13coco
79
Aug 15, 2019
Fair enough! Dealing when customer support issues could also pose a.. issue in my mind. Language barrier, sending a unit to China and all that. Either way, I doubt I will be buying anything Audio-gd as my want list doesn't include their gear. I will update here on thoughts of the Airist R2R though, hopefully early September when it arrives.
Major_Infidel
316
Sep 22, 2019
ls13cocoI’m not speaking from experience here, but one thing I’ve heard is that the RME DAC/amp combo is particularly brilliant for use with very efficient, high end IEMs. I too am facing the same decision between the D70 and the RME. And I say this as one who has the THX 789 on order. If I was only concerned about driving my HD800S headphones, the relative cost savings of the D70/THX 789 would be hard to pass up. But also being a Campfire Solaris owner, I wonder if the extra expense of the RME/THX 789 combo isn’t worth it given the added features and flexibility.
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HispanicPanic
51
Aug 9, 2019
I'm surprised this hasn't been asked yet.... but anyone know how this compares against it's schiit equivalent, the bifrost, bifrost multi, or maybe even the Gungir??? I plan on hooking these up to my active emotiva 6s's and sub, fed through a PC as the source. Not sure if there are any better reccomendations for a DAC for this type of setup.... i know these weren't necessarily designed to be used with anything other than headphones, but not sure what else could fit the bill for this type of setup.
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HispanicPanic
51
Aug 27, 2019
Thanks so much for your input. I've heard this before, but it doesn't get covered enough to really explain it in any detail. It seems my ear tends to favor clarity above all else, so i'm assuming that if something measures well, my ear would favor it. I've done searches on R2R and delta sigma, but it hasn't helped my understanding any on the whole measured dac vs poorly measuring dac and why a "poor" measuring dac would still sound better.
mindbender9
46
Aug 28, 2019
HispanicPanicThat tells me that you need to listen to a couple of DACs and determine for yourself what sounds best to you. Despite all of the Schiit-bashing that happens, their sound is preferable to me. But I’ve had to chance to listen to a small number of DACs (both DS and R2R) and I preferred the sound from the Schiit product line. But ultimately, form an opinion based on your listening results and you can explain why you prefer one DAC over another. A BIG mistake is to blindly believe a graph and assume a unit sounds horrible just because you were told that. You can always tell who never listened to a particular DAC by how much they spout numbers and graphs. Someone who has auditioned a product can tell you what they liked or didn’t like about a product. But your listening preferences are what matters most.
LuckyLuke575
561
Jun 8, 2019
This Topping D70 DAC paired with the 789 THX AAA via balanced interconnects, and you'll have one of the best equipment setups in headphone hifi audio. AKM is a great sounding chip, with far less distortion in the midrange than the ESS chips. And seeing that this model has 2 AK4497 DAC chips (AKM's flagship DAC chip). Another great feature of this DAC is the remote control and preamp function. I have the DX3 Pro, and I can tell you that having the remote is amazing in terms of changing inputs and volume adjustment.
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LuckyLuke575
561
Jun 13, 2019
Totally agree. The DX3 Pro is the most versatile DAC/AMP out there; great build and sound quality, input options, and output power. And the screen is awesome! I don't feel the need to own any other equipment since I bought mine just over a month ago :)
verifonix
1181
Jun 13, 2019
A community member
Aug 31, 2020
Does this have the rolled off/recessed treble like the d90? I tried the d90 and didn't like it. Considering this as an alternative
parowOOz
19
Nov 21, 2020
TzamazAnd there you go. At least I know who I'm dealing with now.
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