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PhalanxInferna
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Nov 4, 2018
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I'm in the market for an all in one dac/amp. I've mainly been considering the Schiit Jotunheim. Is there any reason to consider this over that (well, this is quite cheaper but aside from that)? I'll be powering Senn 6XX and Hifiman 4XX and needing to line out to Adam T5Vs.
Nov 4, 2018
junklee
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Nov 4, 2018
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Maybe you should spend some time to read measurement before jumping on Schiit product. Schiit always has bad measurements comparing to much cheaper product. Also Schiit doesn't like DSD and MQA , so don't expect they will include those in. here is the review for Jotunheim. high distortion, noise and jitter..The ungrounded lid is causing hum and possible safety issues. https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/review-and-measurements-of-schiit-jotunheim-and-ifi-idsd-black-label-dacs-and-headphone-amps.3717/ another bad measurement.. https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/measurement-and-review-of-schiit-bifrost-multibit-dac.2319/
Nov 4, 2018
PawPawDog
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Nov 5, 2018
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I don't have Schiit but do have the DX7 and both Senn 6XX and Hifiman 4XX for my desktop. While I am not a headphone person and most of the time use the DX7 line out to a tube amp with a pair of NHT SuperZero 2.1, I do feel it drive Senn 6XX very well. Better than I had expected in fact. I never like the Hifiman 4XX as much as the Senn 6XX by any type of amps so I wouldn't comment about it with the DX7here. BTW, the DAC part of the DX7 also preformed better than expected, compares to Oppo 203 and 205.
Nov 5, 2018
PhalanxInferna
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Nov 5, 2018
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Thank you for the reply. I have seen those measurements. But I have also seen the 300+ page on Head Fi and several YouTube reviews praising Schiit products and specifically the Jot. I am new to this hobby and am trying to make the best purchase decision. So it is hard for me to discount hundreds of positive Schiit reviews versus the one negative. I want an easy to use desktop solution with good performance, XLR outs and an under $800 price tag. The Topping does seem like a great fit however I did read about it being a bad amp.
Nov 5, 2018
CoupeDeBoulder
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Dec 3, 2018
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Forgive my ignorance, but I'm new to the small amp/ preamp world. I'm just getting back into audio after a long time away (a fire, then a child) . After the fire (way under- insured), I replaced all my lost and cherished, and painfully acquired equipment, with a NAD C340, NHT super zero and sa1/sw1 subwoofer. That was in 1992, and didn't buy any more audio gear until I went a little overboard recently. I started with a Marantz SR6012, goldenear triton 7s, a supercenter x, and 4 supersat 30s. Then I realized that I'm now in a condo and was never going to be able to listen the way I used to without getting lynched by the neighbors. So I started down the headphone path. I have the senn 6XX and the just arrived Focal Elex and THX 789. But I never considered using a headphone amp with my speakers. Again, forgive my ignorance, but your comment about the super zeros intrigued me. Obviously I may be missing something big here and was hoping you could start to fill in the missing pieces. Are you using the amp as a preamp or power amp or... Thanks in advance for any light you can shine on this! -mike
Dec 3, 2018
pepegombos
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Dec 3, 2018
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Hey man, did you get this at the end? How is it working out for you? I have 6XX and I'm about to buy two Adam T5Vs. How do you like your Adams? :)
Dec 3, 2018
PawPawDog
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Dec 3, 2018
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I use the line out of the DX7 connected to a tube amp and using the tube amp to drive the NHT SuperZero 2.1 in a desktop nearfield setup. I don't think the headphone amp part the DX7 is capable, nor did I attempt to use it to drive the NHT. Having said that, while the tube amp also has headphone output, I prefer using the DX7 for headphone as it has far lower noise floor than the tube amp.
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Dec 3, 2018
PawPawDog
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Dec 3, 2018
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Oops, replied to the wrong person! Please see my reply to pepegombos.
Dec 3, 2018
PawPawDog
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Dec 3, 2018
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Please ignore my previous reply. Wrong person.  
Dec 3, 2018
ElectronicVices
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Dec 3, 2018
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Topping is a more feature rich DAC and the Schiit is a more versatile amp. With planar at play I would say the amp is more vital but as much as people like to compare them they are slightly different product targets. If you want to play with DSD files, want to save some money and are ok with low impedance headphones not pairing so well with your amp go Topping. If you don't care about any format after 192/24 bit PCM streams and want to be able to work well with a wider variety of headphones go Schiit. Most integrated DAC's are a less than optimal solution for pre-amp duties so call that a wash between the two.
Dec 3, 2018
Uzuzu
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Dec 4, 2018
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I have a Schiit Lyr 2 and it sounds fracking amazing SS or with Tubes dude... don't be a hater
Dec 4, 2018
PawPawDog
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Dec 4, 2018
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Err, come again? I did not recall making any statement about Schiit let alone to be a hater.....
Dec 4, 2018
Uzuzu
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Dec 4, 2018
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Like you I replied to the wrong person. I somehow have done this on massdrop now a few times. My bad.
Dec 4, 2018
Brosefstalin42
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Dec 4, 2018
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A bit late to your original post, but I have a Jotunheim just as an amp, and I've had no issues, so it may be more on the integrated DAC side, which their implementation tends to be reviewed as bright. If you want it mostly for the power, a Topping D30 works wonders, and if you want a balanced DAC, the SMSL SU-8 is a good entry point, since balanced DACs are quite spendy even near the lower end. This would be a good starter in it's own right, just watch out for the impedance on efficient headphones. Haven't heard of too many complaints even with the fostex cans that are 25-28 ohm impedance, so it may be more anecdotical than anything.
Dec 4, 2018
Uzuzu
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Dec 6, 2018
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every time someone hears a clean SS amp I swear they call it bright, when really their chi-fi just muddied the bass and bloated the sound before. Jotunheim is perfectly fine.
Dec 6, 2018
HIFI778
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Dec 7, 2018
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This DAC/AMP for this price it is a steal in my opinion. For a true balanced DAC you will pay more then this Topping and it has an already very good headphone amplifier.
Dec 7, 2018
Mc_365
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Jan 14, 2019
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Condo life is hell.  I've been looking at my floor standing Polk Audio RTi12(s), longing to awaken them from their 10 year slumber since I bought this condo.  Alas, I am limited to trying to replicate that once visceral feeling with expensive headphones.
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Jan 14, 2019
CoupeDeBoulder
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Jan 14, 2019
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Oh do I hear you, sigh! I finally figured out that I can play loud for 20 minutes before 8pm and if they don't like it, too bad (because I don't like not doing it). It can't be all give, you got to take occasionally!
Jan 14, 2019
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