Mechanical Keyboard Sound Isn't That Simple
Figure 1: I couldn't think of a more literal way to represent this article if I tried... Looking back just a few years ago, there’s no doubt that the huge influx of people that joined the hobby at the peak of the COVID pandemic were drawn to keyboards by way of YouTube, TikTok, and other audio-visual content platforms. Even as the output from these content creators has waned in recent months, their collective impact and legacy on the keyboard hobby is rather firmly etched in the history books. As a result of all of their sound tests, build logs, and opinion videos, the message is clear to any new person joining the hobby: mechanical keyboards are all about the sound. Thock this, clack that. Whether it’s keyboards, keycaps, or even singular switches, seemingly everyone new to the hobby meticulously pores over each component of their keyboard not in an attempt to figure out how it will feel in hand, but how it will sound as they’re furiously grinding their way out from...
Mar 27, 2024
You may even have a point, but the words you've choosen to insult the staff really makes me wonder, who do you think you are and what you're still doing here, go back to geekhack and be toxic there if you want to.
I'm sorry but if massdrop is sitting on enough of these they can keep bundling them with topre boards 24-7 yet refuse to relaunch an item requested heavily for quite some time now it's clear and obvious they do not give a rats ass about their customer base. That's not insulting that's reality my friend. If it's "Toxic" to question why MD has enough of these space bars sitting around to offer them with Topre boards constantly...yet somehow NOT enough to offer a drop on them? If not at least with a limited amount of units. Also i'm well aware of the discussion about the future iv'e asked matt3o about this directly. That has nothing to do with the fact MD seems to be sitting on a pile of these and has been for awhile yet refuses to sell them any other way but a forced purchase with a Topre board.
Don't pee on me and tell me it's raining.
P.S would you like a shield to borrow for your white knight outfit? Seriously though MD and it's staff can defend themselves quite well should they choose to do so. It's a fairly hard position to defend though given the mount of requests on the original drop https://www.massdrop.com/buy/topre-pbt-spacebar/talk how often they have sold these after the fact but only if you buy a $200+ Keyboard with it. I'm hardly alone in my feeling on this topic and while i may be more animated about it i find it comical you find that "toxic"
I take that shield and i've no problem to be a white knight for people i'm befriended with and know for sure that they care out of personal conversation and experience. Your sense of reality is somehow shifted, in my reality i'm not even close to be your friend.
P.S
I still think the HHKB and any Topre board is overpriced but given they aren't as mainstream as Cherry based switches we both know that likely won't change soon.
P.P.S Peoples opinions are allowed to evolve and change over time, if they didn't we would have a lot of ignorant people in the world.
We are definitely not going to change each others minds on this and that's fine not everyone is EVER going to agree on everything. I do however find it sad you think it's "toxic" for a customer to question a companies caring about what it's customer base wants. Especially when it's customers have made it VERY loud and clear and said company continues to throw said product in it's customers faces along side a $200+ keyboard several already have or have variants there of (87u55G/HHKB/etc). Heavens forbid we lowly peasants the customers question the company who survives due to our patronage.
But whatever to each their own, even though you think i'm "toxic" i wish you a good night just the same.
one last answer before i've got to go to bed, 4 o'clock in the morning at my side of the world. First, it's bad style to edit comments after you've gotten an answer without "showing" that, someone smart like you should know that, but maybe that's your nature/kind of reality.
Of course the staff could answer/defend themselves, but they're bond to a certain behaviour representing a company and can't answer the way they might like or your attitude isn't even worth to waste time on.
Your so called fanboy in me might be true to a certain amount, but MDs staff and their behaviour have earned that step by step over the last two years, threating me very well all the time, and i've criticised them very often, but i've seen them evolving and getting better and listening to their customers. There might be different point of views/reasons, we the customers being unhappy with something want it better right now instantly, but companywise changes take time and having another timeframe.
Like i said before, it's not about what you said, it's the style you've choosen. You're free to vote with your wallet, looking at the drops you've participated, you remind me of someone entering a diner, telling the folks they're cooking the wrong way and running their business wrong and order a glas of water and some plain bread.
There are two sides of the medal, you're free to buy what you like and MD is free to sell what they like at the time they like. People had been unhappy and rant that MD is the devil today and in a short while when the updated spacebars are going to drop MD is fine again.
Like you said, to each his own opinion, if you want to keep on going, you've to wait for an answer till tomorrow.
If you are running a business then your number one goal is to try and get the right stuff at certain times, that's allowable. Also fighting to get those orders through to suppliers and making sure they can actually supply it in time to your projects that are being run.
The amount of times we were waiting for gear ordered last year but not receiving anything, is really harsh but it happens in business. If people want everything to be available for them at the times they like, then please move on over to that Fantasy World as soon as possible.
Also for the complaint about only supplying Realforce Keyboards here, I don't consider that a failed effort because these items need to be bought and distributed here on MD very often. Supplying the extra Space Bars as a bundle, helps to incentivise the buying public into acquiring Realforce Keyboards. Hence the actual Realforce Manufacturer soon hears that their product is selling on the other side of this planet in decent numbers. So NO I don't only want PBT space bars being sold here BUT also the very latest REALFORCE keyboards as well.
Have never thought that Japanese Made Keyboards were ever substandard or diminished in the world of Keyboards and they should be sold more often here on MassDrop because believe it or not the shipping cost to my abode here, is quite cheap compared to buying anything off Elitekeyboard's Website.
P.S Nice attempt at the slight and while i wish i were a kid again sadly i'm 35 and actually run a scratch bakery for a living.
P.P.S i never complained about them only supplying Realforce boards, (if that was referring to me) i was complaining they only sell the PBT spacebars bundled with Realforce boards as opposed to by themselves like well over 1500+ customers have requested thus far.
TLDR: Customers are your #1 priority in any business anyone who says otherwise has never run or managed a business in their life.
There is a reason Amazon has some of the highest rated customer service in the industry and is also one of if not the biggest player in the industry.
For most overseas customers, we still prefer MassDrop and I have all the time in the World, unlike you of course because your incessant crying about the PBT spacebars, is becoming quite frankly boring and morose.
Either you live up to your age group and become adult about this or keep on crying and posting childish comments on how you haven't gotten what you wanted. Maybe this might have to do with your own issues relating to past events in your life but at this point, I couldn't care less about you in any way, shape or form.
Now since you obviously hate MD for your own reasons then you should be at home on Amazon where they still allow childish tantrums to be displayed quite freely, adios sunshine ; )
Firstly I have no need to vent to Amazon as with most people largely their customers are satisfied which is why they are so large.
Secondly the overseas customers i would be willing to bet makeup a fairly small share of MD's profits compared to US based customers. P.S there is an entire thread on the oh...i don't know PBT Topre massdrop page of people also ""crying"" about the same thing for a reason. For the record were you literate you would see i posted above i already have mine i just find it shitty MD ignores their customers like this.
I live up to my group? Meanwhile you pretend to know someones life events over the internet?! LOL...Holy hell i am GLAD you do not live in the US as by the sounds of it you would be yet another one living off the system i would have to support from my tax dollars. You don't care about me yet to take the time to respond none the same? Bit ironic no?
I don't hate MD i just find it anti consumer they ignore their customers oh so often with something oh so easy to fix since they obviously have existing stock in hand right now.
But people like who who defend corporations at every whim and every corner for no good reason the internet has a term for people like you..often used for the Diehard Console fanboys but with you it fits fairly well also "Corporate Slave"
Nice to know it's a tantrum asking the same thing several others half just re iterating the point on their behalf seeing as i have no horse in this race owning one already for my HHKB. But by all means continue to put your lips on Massdrops Nether Regions.
Makami i may disagree with but at least he/she is worth responding to, you on the other hand literally are the very definition of an internet troll offering NOTHING useful to the discussion.
Meanwhile chances are because i am a tax paying adult with a life a wife and a career i likely own more keyboards than you do pairs of shoes .
"and I have all the time in the World" Generally those with no life do.
You are not even worth the wear on my HHKB for a further response after this one. Please leave this hobby and leave it to those of us who care about it and can afford it enough to not whine about shipping 24-7.
Edit: Elrickk, I am deleting your post because it is filled with ad hominem verbiage.
Of course congrats to providing an all PBT drop on Monday, shall be there to buy lots and hopefully that [moderated] can stop crying about not getting any more PBT Space Bars here on MassDrop ; )
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Just trying to loosen a thread of hope for all the PBT Space Bar addicts here on MD.
@LiquidEvilGaming We can run these drops with the spacebars because we bought a small amount in the first drop to continue doing this type of bundle. We wanted to get more Topre boards out into the community so that we can get more cool community projects going and these spacebars are part of how we can work with Topre. We simply do not have enough to run a major drop like last time, but we do have enough to send out with a handful of Topre boards here and there.
That said, matt3o is working on some new colors and further perfecting the existing ones. As soon as everything is worked out on both ends we can start up a drop again.
Cheers.
Hence why don't you go back into the PBT Topre Spacebar section and cry about it there? We here, in this area want the whole keyboard sunshine and we don't see the need to constantly bash MassDrop to run another Group Buy on Spacebars. We have already participated in the 1st running, hence we are still enjoying the proceeds from it ; )
As always, if you don't participate in their Group Buys you have no reason to demand anything from them. Besides Realforce always makes the better keyboard. Just glad that MD is still running these buys and getting ever more PBT Space Bars. It's embarrassing to own so many. Might have to let go some on Ebay later on, all thanks to this place right here.
When you're patient you get everything, that is the key to Life. You should know that by now ; )