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zombywoof
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Jun 30, 2019
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(1) at the current market prices for copper and silver, and considering the price offered for this cable, it is highly unlikely that the amount of silver used in these cables will add any value or enhance performance (if you believe that silver does so). (2) note that most third party cable manufacturers mention the purity of the copper used in the wire to attract the folks that hold to the premise that cable construction impacts the sound of their IEM's. These guys are (a) using high purity copper and missing a marketing opportunity by not pointing it out, or (b) not using high purity copper and trying to slip one past you. Again, based o the low price it is likely to be the latter. (3) as a replacement cable for inexpensive IEM's (which probably came with an inexpensive mass market cable) this is likely a good choice. While it looks very nice in the photos, and has the appearance of a custom made IEM cable, at this price this is not likely to be an upgrade for the cables on most mid-tier and above IEM's.
Jun 30, 2019
sleepy21
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Jun 30, 2019
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zombywoofAlso >The technique is unique because the tinsel wire is manufactured by wrapping several strands of thin copper or copper foil around a textile core such as Kevlar. Because the conductor is very thin, its is extremely flexible At this price point I'd rather use cables with thicker conductor (usually 19 x 8 strands). They didn't even list the number of conductor strands were used in this cable on Linsoul website.
Jun 30, 2019
zombywoof
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Jul 1, 2019
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sleepy21I found this on the website near the bottom of the product page on the Linsoul site. I am always leery of a deal that looks "too good to be true." I am guessing this is one of those. While $ does not always equal quality/performance, $ should at least be an indicator of what to expect. Specss Material: 8 Core silver and copper foil wire/Tinsel Silver Wire and Tinsel Copper Wire Interface: MMCX/2PIN/Recessed 2Pin(QDC) Plug type: 3.5/2.5/4.4mm Length: 1.25m
Jul 1, 2019
stormmilk
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Jul 1, 2019
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zombywoofGreat analysis. It is quite surprising to have read such a comment here on massdrop.
Jul 1, 2019
Shoujin
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Jul 4, 2019
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zombywoofIt looks to me from the pictures like they are using the word "core" to mean "wire" because there appear to be 8 individual wires (4 per ear) braided together. As for the Tinsel wire, it is a technology that has been around for decades in order to create wires that are extremely flexible and very resistant to conductor failure caused by repeated bending. However, I have pretty much always associated it with being an extremely cheap wiring type (e.g. it is frequently used in the patch cords used to plug analog telephones into a wall jack and in many of the cables for very old & very cheap earbuds). That's not to say high quality cables couldn't be produced using the technology, I just have never personally seen any. It is also almost impossible to solder most Tinsel wire effectively without specialty equipment (I know from personal experience) because the foil is typically coated with enamel like magnet wire but is too thin/fragile to remove the enamel with a flame or scraping with a blade (the most common methods for stripping magnet wire). So, there is a higher chance of poor electrical conductivity between the wire and the connectors. I understand that they are trying to cut copper costs and increase cable flexibility but honestly I'm not sold on the idea of using Tinsel wire for supposedly "upgraded" IEM cables. I think I'm going to stick with non-tinsel cable options for now since I don't really need the extra flexibility or lower copper costs. More info about Tinsel wire is available on Wikipedia here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tinsel_wire

Jul 4, 2019
zombywoof
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Jul 4, 2019
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ShoujinGood information. I have noticed that the product descriptions provided by the Drop writers/editors are frequently incorrect, or at least ambiguous. Not sure we should have to interpret the descriptions to know what we are purchasing.
Jul 4, 2019
dwang040
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Aug 6, 2019
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zombywoofYeah, I agree. A lot of drops audio descriptions have gotten really poor. Many of the chi-fi/budget selections are filled with buzz words on how great they are, but there's not a single measurement, graph, or specification to really back it up.
Aug 6, 2019
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