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Vanijorou
9
Sep 22, 2015
Anyone used the sideloaders? I think I'd stick with the normal top loaders for double sleeving.
Dark5ide
2
Sep 22, 2015
VanijorouThat's my main concern. The idea behind double sleeving is to form a seal by sleeving from the top to bottom with a perfect fit, then bottom to top with a normal sleeve. I'm not sure if the same seal is formed if on the side.
Theshamwow
3
Sep 22, 2015
Dark5ideI think the design goal of this product is to make the actual double sleeving process easier and faster because the sleeve won't slide up on the card while you are sleeving it. Hopefully it accomplishes the main reasonof protecting the tops cards so they don't get nicked while shuffling. I don't think they'll hold up to accidental liquid spillage in the same way a traditional double sleeving would.
That being said I hope these are good because that would solve my only gripe with the dragonshield matte sleeves.
I am eagerly awaiting the professor's review on YouTube.
Vanijorou
9
Mar 31, 2016
TheshamwowThey definitely would not protect against spillage like before(which is the holy grail of reasons to sleeve, it only needs to happen once), but even more in my opinion I think double sleeving in a side-loader is literally just wasting time and money. With traditional reversed top-bottom double sleeving contaminates need to travels the entire length of the card through the sleeve, then going around the edge and back the other way to get to into the other sleeve. From what I've seen almost all contaminates get stuck at the bottom of the first sleeve in the seal of the sleeve. Now with the side-loaders the distance that the dust has to travel is essentially nothing, the two entrances would be within mm of each other.
And what do you gain anyway? The inner sleeve doesn't slide off when you attempt to insert it into your main sleeve? That mainly happens between the KMC Perfect Size and Dragonshield/Ultrapro. I've been double sleeve(ing) with KMC Perfect Size and KMC Hyper Mattes(and before that Mattes) for years and 1 MAYBE 2 out of every 100 has that problem, they're made to fit each others dimensions, so it shouldn't surprise you that the fit may not be quite right when trying to sleeve with 2 brands, and if you're using dragonshields then you should know that they're notorious for being different sizes even within the same color.
I recommend doublesleeving with KMC only and avoiding these sideloaders until someone really puts them to the test. I personally am not willing to try this.