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Msilverhammer
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Jan 19, 2018
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I performed some research, and noticed that the Ultimate Hammocks Scout Hammock does not appear on their web page.
I'm not sure why, or maybe I missed it somehow, or maybe it is located on a secret hidden web page, but the Scout appears to be a special hammock that they make for Massdrop, Groupon, and others, or maybe it is just discontinued...not sure?
I did notice that there is still one in red being sold on Amazon by the Summit Hut for $18.99, but that does not include the straps, so nothing to write home about!
The Scout Hammock seems to be very close to being a drop for the Ultimate Hammocks Freedom Edition Hammock, which is currently being sold on their website for $54.95.
If you perform a little research, you will notice that the Ultimate Hammocks Freedom Hammock is manufactured to nearly the same dimensions as this hammock being offered in this drop.
Ultimate Hammocks Scout Hammock Dimensions: 112" x 57 " (285 x 145 cm), or 9' 4" Long x 4' 9" Wide.
Ultimate Hammocks Freedom Hammock 108" x 54" (274 x 137.16 cm), or 9" Long x 4" 6" Wide.
Neither one is what I would consider ideal for a hammock, as I always look for a hammock that is closer to 10" long, so a better hammock would be in the 9'10" to 10' 6" range.
Taller individuals will appreciate the extra 6" to 12" in length.
In addition to the length, the ideal hammock should be wider too, so one can get the best diagonal lay possible, or if using a pad like the Hammock V, a blanket, quilt, under-quilt, or mummy pod.
Again, in my opinion, and experience, a hammock that is 6' to 6" 6" wide is better, and more comfortable, so you won't feel pinched by the hammock.
You can also pull some of the hammock material over your head if you like, for a cocoon effect.
So, the hammock that you really want to purchase from Ultimate Hammocks is their Ultimate Hammock V2 with dimensions of 122' x 76", (309.88 x 193.04 cm), or 10’2” Long x 6’4” Wide, which they normally sell for $69.00, but currently sold out.
By the way, Ultimate Hammocks claims that the V2 Hammock is wide enough for two individuals, and yes, two individuals of average size could probably fit in the wider hammock, but I can't see that as being very comfortable.
One other important note...If you read the Massdrop Description you will find that the Tensile strength of the straps included with the Scout hammock is 800 lbs (363 kg).
Also, and very important to note is the Manufacturer's suggested weight capacity of only 220 lbs (100 kg).
So if you purchase this hammock and strap combo, you are getting a hammock rated to 400 pounds (181.436 kg), and straps that are rated to 800 pounds (362.873 kg) tensile strength, but with the suggested weight capacity of only 220 pounds (100 kg).
This is a bit confusing to say the least, and perhaps cautionary, and definitely limiting, again unless you are a smaller, lightweight individual.
I am 6' 3" and around 235 pounds of solid muscle, (OK, maybe 5 pounds of me is not technically muscle, LOL) and I previously purchased the Ultimate Hammocks 1600 pound (725.747 kg) tensile strength straps from Massdrop for $17.74 total, which are rated for a recommended use weight of 400 pounds (181.436 kg), by Ultimate Hammocks.
I have used them in conjunction with my 300 pound rated hammock without without any issues, and see no reason to purchase the 800 pound rated straps, when the 1600 pound straps are available for little or no extra cost.
Bottom Line...I'm passing on this drop for the following reasons:
1). The 220 pound weight limitations, and written maximum weight recommendations made by Ultimate Hammocks.
2). The sole option, or mandate of purchasing only the 800 pound rated tensile strength straps, versus the 1600 pound rated tensile strength straps.
3). The smallish and cramped dimensions as referenced above.
4). The color Forest Green is already sold out.
I could see using the other colors at the local beach, lake, or park, but not out in the forest, (or stealth camping), where I would mainly be located when using this hammock. Grey might be acceptable, but I see no reason to settle.
5). The shipping charges which adds 25% in additional cost to the hammock and straps!
Hopefully I pointed out and raised some issues that will help you to determine if this hammock and strap combination is good for you.
Jan 19, 2018
planb10113
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MsilverhammerI can speak to the fact that the hammock can absolutely handle more than 220lbs. from experience. Both my girlfriend and I were hanging in it and we total about 340lbs. I certainly wouldn't recommend having two people in it, but I think Ultimate's recommendation of 220 lbs. is conservative. I would also like to comment that I think your "ideal hammock" specs are more inline with what you would want from a camping hammock or one that you would sleep over night in versus one just for lounging. I too feel this hammock is not at all what you'd want for replacing a tent, but for backyard or campsite lounging, I think this is the perfect blend of quality and price.
Jan 19, 2018
Msilverhammer
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planb10113I agree that the Scout hammock is meant mainly for your backyard, but when a manufacturer makes a (weight limitation) recommendation, then I follow that recommendation.
The hammock may hold you and your girlfriend for now, but for how long?
Better to follow the old adage, "Buy once, Cry once!
In other words, buy the better hammock now, rather than as a second purchase later.
I can just lounge in my backyard by the lake with my hammock, or I can take it anywhere that I can travel like the forest, trail, wilderness, etc.
So unless you never go anywhere except your backyard, then that would not be the hammock I would choose.
But, hey, everyone is different, and I respect your opinion, and I am glad that you are happy.
Jan 19, 2018
planb10113
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MsilverhammerVery fair point to have one that can do it all. In my situation I have this one for lounging and as site furniture and a Hennessy with built in bug fly and a rain tarp for sleeping in. Due to the overall complexity of the setup of the Hennessy (not difficult, just takes some time) and the permanently attached bug net, I knew I'd want something simpler and easier to setup. You also make another great point with the "for how long" question. Again, wouldn't recommend having two people in it for any length of time, but it is doable. I mainly said that for folks that aren't sure to hear from someone with personal experience with the hammock. Ain't it great that we can have differing views and opinions, but still get along and share our experiences for everyones benefit? Now if only Congress could grasp that concept...
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Msilverhammer
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