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Hmmmmmm....... I have pair of monk pluses i got from VE direct and just got my red ones in the mail..... They sound different, the reds sound better. But maybe after they burn in they will get worse? I dont know but im interested to know anyone else done some comparing. To me it sounds like a different tuning but i could be wrong. I noticed the shells are definitely from a different mold, on the reds the left and right letters are mold into the plastic on the ve directs they are silk screened on. Something as simply as a slight change in molding could affect the sound if they are slightly different internally.