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I have these and I found them to be ok. They sounded like my Shure 535s. Just for fun I bought a Linsoul Ballanced cable off of Drop and WOW did they come alive. I hooked it into my A&K 100mk2 and the sound was amazing. I've got the ISine20 with Cypher cable, Klipsch X11s and several others. The W60s sound the best. Difference between Ballanced and Unbalanced was night and day. I could have bought the verse with ALO and BT verse cable for $649 from Adorama. They still have used which I bet are returns for $609.