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Timewalker
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Apr 30, 2018
Hi everyone, since I'm new to the tube world with this entry level DAC/Amp I've done a LOT of reading in the last 5 days and came across a very interesting article about tube fakes. I now understand, how "profit-oriented" this tube market can be. Imagine factory workers from ex-soviet countries selling low-quality/defective 5000 Tesla tubes, yes 5k (which had to be destroyed) to fakers, who then re-branded them as Telefunken ECC803s (the holy grail and sold them for $$$). Both workers and fakers make a profit, the buyer is paying a lot of money for his "belief" in someone's credibility.
I'm coming to the conclusion that a lot of people have paid 3-digit $ for something that is not really "original". So my advice is: if you see a Telefunken ECC82 or 802s on sites like Amazon and Ebay, it is not there out of a sudden, and don't rush a purchase. I'm based in Bulgaria, where old stock of Teslas is still found in someone's closet or old warehouse, prices are still upward of $30 (and I'm not sure if these were not mid 1990s JJ-built stock with Tesla parts, after Tesla factory equipment was sold to JJ or EAT). As a reference modern day EAT ECC803S Cool Valve Diamond is priced at € 180.00 a piece http://www.europeanaudioteam.com/en/eat-ecc803s-cool-valve-000009.html . I tend to believe that modern-day tube valve production process must have gone a step forward.
Here is the article that I read and was amazed of how the NOS market works - http://www.jacmusic.com/nos/images/Fakes/index.htm
In the end I might settle for a newly built JJ ECC802s gold, so that I know I'm not screwed and this is an honest copy of the Tesla / Telefunken design, built with contemporary equipment. What do you think about all this?
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rslatara
287
May 20, 2018
TimewalkerElectro Harmonix Gold are impressive. I dare to say I prefer it over the Genalex.
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