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looks fantastic but can not use at the moment
The numpad looks great! only problem is it came with no screws or spacers to install the board. am I supposed to buy the screws myself? was it supposed to come with them? Don't know enough about building boards to track down what will work. If someone can help me out it would be awesome.
Would recommend to a friend.
Mine also came without screws. Not sure if they should have been included, but they are not included in the details, so I guess not.
What do you mean by no screws? Just received my grey unit and it has 8 screws total. 4 for the back plate with the glass inset and 4 for the mount plate. No other screws are required as the PCB is held in place by the solder joints to the switches which are locked into the plate. If your unit came with no screws at all then that's a problem. I can figure out what the spec is if you like, thread size head design etc.
The PCB is not guaranteed to be held in place by solder joints if you use hotswap sockets. The case has screw holes in the plate (those 4), that are specifically designed to screw the PCB using standoffs to the plate.
Furthermore, keeping the PCB in place with the solder joints is not that great of an idea, honestly. It should be better fixed by screwing it to the plate, even if you don't use hotswap sockets.
Ah. I understand now. Although I disagree with the latter statement. I've been running an Ergodox as my daily work driver for over 4 years now and because of the way the switches are mounted to the plate the force is transferred directly into the plate with minimal to no force commuted through the plate to the PCB. Although the design makes it a pain to swap out dead/wonky switches.
Regarding the original issue of no screws and standoffs being included for hotswap sockets... I know you think its a small cost but in comparison to the tiny percentage of people who use hotswaps on their boards the cost of including them, both in manufacturing and to the customers who don't want them is pretty big. I'd estimate an extra $5 per unit to include them, which for a manufacturer is huge. I'd take the win with the holes being predrilled in the PCB and casing to accommodate the choice should you want to pursue it... 🤷🏽♂️
That may be right for an Ergodox, but this plate has to accommodate several combinations of key dimensions, and some keys will fall through the stab cut outs. For example if you use split plus or split enter, and (for some reason...) "1" and "2". So when you press those, the plate does not offer so much stability, and most of the force will go through onto the PCB.
However, I do agree with your point that it might have been expensive to include screws and standoffs for every kit, but I feel like it's kinda shady that it's not specifically written in the details that it does *not* include those, when the photos show obvious support for PCB mounting to the plate. Furthermore, it could have been an extra option on checkout, an addon for $5, that would give you the specific screws and standoffs required to mount the PCB to the plate, for whoever needs it. This would have been a perfect solution for everyone.
I ended up buying a hot swap PCB with USB C for this case. If I could find out what size screws to buy that would be great. All my other boards came with the screw and mini nuts. I am unfamiliar with these sizes to know what to buy.