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Zerogram Zero1 22oz Shelter
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When you need more shelter than a bivy can provide but don’t want to lug around a full-fledged tent, there’s the Zero 1—one of the most exciting products from Korean ultralight company Zerogram. Built to accommodate the solo backpacker, this simple A-frame tent uses trekking poles to pare down weight, coming in at about a pound and a half Read More
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keyboard_arrow_downMcCaskill
68
Nov 28, 2016
This is fairly old but I wanted to put my new review after using this multiple times over that last year.
First off, I am 6'3". I have very little space from my head or feet to the walls. This doesn't bother me since I'm used to be crammed in small areas. I've used this from simple camping trips to through hikes spanning over 3 days. My results varied. the supplied stakes are not good. They bent really easily with tougher dirt so I replaced them quickly.
Pros: Super quick setup; works well with telescopic poles. Vestibule enough space for essentials to stay out of the weather. Fit my 70L bag and shoes nicely. Very light and low profile in my bag, I even carried in my side compression pouch to make space inside my bag for other items.
Cons: CONDENSATION - I live in California, not a humid state my no means. It did not handle cool weather (20 degree - 60 degree) The condensation built up very easily inside and you end up with wet items and your head when you sit up. (if you're tall). At first, I thought there was enough ventilation but there isn't. You must open the vestibule up to get decent venting. This isn't great when its a bit chilly and you want to keep your heat in.
Guy points - Technically there is only one guy out on the top near the taller peak to help keep the shape. Other than that, there isn't any. I would like having a ridgeline guy points so if you wanted, you can suspend instead of using your poles. This is useful for if you set up a base camp then go hiking and need your poles.
No loops inside - I love to hang my light inside, I use the zipper to do so but when you need to use the zipper, the light then isn't above your head. Minor annoyance i can fix with a stick on loop. But still, just add a simple loop inside for this please.
Overall, was it worth it? I would say yes. It is a very affordable shelter and does the job well for warmer climates. It fits my size which is surprising. I would definitely suggest on upgrading the stakes before taking it out. Would I buy it again knowing these things ahead of time? Probably not, I would do a little more shopping. The condensation issue is a big flop for me. Essentially don't want to use this thing unless it's well ventilated. More of a 2.5 season tent in my eyes.
Photos from recent overnight during Thanksgiving.
Pros: Super quick setup; works well with telescopic poles. Vestibule enough space for essentials to stay out of the weather. Fit my 70L bag and shoes nicely. Very light and low profile in my bag, I even carried in my side compression pouch to make space inside my bag for other items.
Cons: CONDENSATION - I live in California, not a humid state my no means. It did not handle cool weather (20 degree - 60 degree) The condensation built up very easily inside and you end up with wet items and your head when you sit up. (if you're tall). At first, I thought there was enough ventilation but there isn't. You must open the vestibule up to get decent venting. This isn't great when its a bit chilly and you want to keep your heat in.
Guy points - Technically there is only one guy out on the top near the taller peak to help keep the shape. Other than that, there isn't any. I would like having a ridgeline guy points so if you wanted, you can suspend instead of using your poles. This is useful for if you set up a base camp then go hiking and need your poles.
No loops inside - I love to hang my light inside, I use the zipper to do so but when you need to use the zipper, the light then isn't above your head. Minor annoyance i can fix with a stick on loop. But still, just add a simple loop inside for this please.
Overall, was it worth it? I would say yes. It is a very affordable shelter and does the job well for warmer climates. It fits my size which is surprising. I would definitely suggest on upgrading the stakes before taking it out. Would I buy it again knowing these things ahead of time? Probably not, I would do a little more shopping. The condensation issue is a big flop for me. Essentially don't want to use this thing unless it's well ventilated. More of a 2.5 season tent in my eyes.
Photos from recent overnight during Thanksgiving.
McCaskill
68
Feb 22, 2016
So I wanted to update on this tent. A lot of debate on the usefulness. i received mine and have been monkey around with it in my yard. to get a good feel of it. First off, I am 6'3" I BARELY fit. My feet have to be all the way to the bottom of the tent to fit comfortably. This isn't bad just not a whole bunch of head space. Second about the rain coming in. Just crawl through the opening in the front instead of the side. The vestibule is decent to give coverage.
Here is my pros and cons so far.
Pros: Light, Easy setup. Has plenty of head space to sit up; Pack down easily and doesn't take hardly any space; Glow and the dark internal zippers(easily to spot at night) Enough space for my size to roll around without being confined.
Cons: Zippers snag quite easily; The tie offs to hold the doors in place are not good. they use a T-loop hook tie and the loop is too large so the T-hook falls out easily. This needs to be elastic to help hold in place. Mine came with only 6 tent posts but it seems to need 8.
Overall, I think it's going to work well! For the cost you cant hardly beat it. I usually carry a REI quarter dome 2 and its bulky compared to this. I needed something smaller but didn't want a bivy bag.
Here is my pros and cons so far.
Pros: Light, Easy setup. Has plenty of head space to sit up; Pack down easily and doesn't take hardly any space; Glow and the dark internal zippers(easily to spot at night) Enough space for my size to roll around without being confined.
Cons: Zippers snag quite easily; The tie offs to hold the doors in place are not good. they use a T-loop hook tie and the loop is too large so the T-hook falls out easily. This needs to be elastic to help hold in place. Mine came with only 6 tent posts but it seems to need 8.
Overall, I think it's going to work well! For the cost you cant hardly beat it. I usually carry a REI quarter dome 2 and its bulky compared to this. I needed something smaller but didn't want a bivy bag.
McCaskill
68
Mar 1, 2016
I took photos at dawn and they aren't good. i will take some today with sunlight.
The side walls are fairly taught. there are 2 ground staking points in the center of the tent which allows you to stretch it out quite well to keep the sides firm. I will get some photos of everything it will explain a lot more.
PeterK
1515
Feb 13, 2016
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PeterK
1515
Feb 11, 2016
The vendor informed us that the group's order was picked up and is on its way to our warehouse. Based on the tracking provided, the order is scheduled to arrive 2/15.
Sometimes shipments get delayed en route, but we will keep the group updated throughout the fulfillment process and notify you all if anything causes delay.
Thank you for your patience. Expect an update from us on 2/19 or sooner if something comes up.
If you have any questions, please visit our Help Center (massdrop.com/helpcenter).
Sometimes shipments get delayed en route, but we will keep the group updated throughout the fulfillment process and notify you all if anything causes delay.
Thank you for your patience. Expect an update from us on 2/19 or sooner if something comes up.
If you have any questions, please visit our Help Center (massdrop.com/helpcenter).
PeterK
1515
Feb 3, 2016
Thanks again for joining this drop! We have submitted the group's order with the vendor for the Zerogram Zero1 22oz Shelter and they are working hard to prepare it for shipment.
As soon as the group's order is ready at the vendor's location, they will send the bulk shipment to our warehouse in New Jersey where our warehouse team will break it up into individual orders and ship them. The current estimated ship date from our warehouse is 2/26.
We will keep the group updated throughout the fulfillment process. You can expect an update from us by the end of the day Pacific Time on 2/11.
If you have any questions, please visit our Help Center (massdrop.com/helpcenter).
As soon as the group's order is ready at the vendor's location, they will send the bulk shipment to our warehouse in New Jersey where our warehouse team will break it up into individual orders and ship them. The current estimated ship date from our warehouse is 2/26.
We will keep the group updated throughout the fulfillment process. You can expect an update from us by the end of the day Pacific Time on 2/11.
If you have any questions, please visit our Help Center (massdrop.com/helpcenter).
Neist
35
Jan 28, 2016
Think I'm going to hop in. I've been in the market.
Sure, there's more proven shelters out there, but it really is hard to beat for this price.
Sure, there's more proven shelters out there, but it really is hard to beat for this price.
Neist
35
Jan 27, 2016
I know I've been somewhat of a defender of it in these comments, but someone has to make the leap to see if a piece of gear is any good.
Personally, I don't mind testing it, especially given the drop price, but it doesn't mean that's right choice for others.
Personally, I don't mind testing it, especially given the drop price, but it doesn't mean that's right choice for others.
slbear
21
Jan 27, 2016
I do like the look of this, and was considering the Protrail for those times in the desert or otherwise can't count on hanging my hammock. I have fixed length 120cm treking poles. Any idea if that would work? With the Protrail I was all but settled that I needed a shorter pole for the foot-end, which I assume would work here too.
The side door is an advantage over the Protrail, as is the price. the Protrail has a longer track record and my guess is much better ventilation. Tough call. I have 6 days it seems on this one.
The side door is an advantage over the Protrail, as is the price. the Protrail has a longer track record and my guess is much better ventilation. Tough call. I have 6 days it seems on this one.
SteveChan
274
Jan 28, 2016
slbearFor the protrail, you don't need to get a shorter or collapsing pole. If you look on the tarptent site you should be able to see how they do it - the pole is connected to the tarp via guylines, it doesn't go under the fly in the back. I don't know if that will work with the Zerogram.
But you know, you can just pickup a short section of tarp pole and bring that along, it isn't very heavy.
But you know, you can just pickup a short section of tarp pole and bring that along, it isn't very heavy.
Usefuldiot
28
Jan 27, 2016
Wow this just looks terrible. 360 degrees of tent wall to sleeping bag touching... any amount of condensation is going to wet out your bag. For the weight and the price get a tarp people you'll end having more space and drier.
Neist
35
Jan 27, 2016
UsefuldiotYou know, the front of the tent is close to the same width and height of a Protrail, and people certainly do okay with those. In fact, a lot of people love those. A Protrail is 42x84x45 (rectangle shaped). A Zero1 is 43.3x82.7x43.3 at front and the cat cut shrinks it down to 23.6 wide and 25.6 tall at the foot. The only dimension that might be problematic is the width at the foot, but my sleeping bag certainly isn't two feet wide. Really, it's probably fine for most circumstances, and the cat cut is necessary to cut the extra 4 ounces.
As per your tarp comment, let's think about it. Let's compare what a fully-enclosed tarp setup equal to this tent's cost would weigh.
8x10 Sil Tarp - ~12oz (~$100) 6-8 Stakes - ~2-3oz (~$20) S2S Nano Bug Netting ~3oz (~$50)
I choose to compare a S2S Nano net because it's probably the cheapest and lightest option you could go with. A less finicky option would be a bivy, but it would also cost a chunk more. I also didn't include the weight of line, but if you went super light, it would add less than an ounce, so, for the sake of argument, I did not include it.
Both the Zero1 from this drop and the tarp setup would cost close to the same amount, and the tarp setup would in fact weight around 4-5oz less, but it's going to be far more finicky to setup. Personally, I prefer the simplicity of an all-in-one solution. The less items I carry, the better. Perhaps you'd prefer a tarp setup, but that doesn't mean anyone who prefers one is invalid.
If for no other reason, one of the major wilderness areas I live close to has a rather high population of rattlesnakes. I'd rather not wake up with one snuggling me. And I doubt I'm alone. A lot of people prefer fully-enclosed shelters for a lot of reasons.
As per your tarp comment, let's think about it. Let's compare what a fully-enclosed tarp setup equal to this tent's cost would weigh.
8x10 Sil Tarp - ~12oz (~$100) 6-8 Stakes - ~2-3oz (~$20) S2S Nano Bug Netting ~3oz (~$50)
I choose to compare a S2S Nano net because it's probably the cheapest and lightest option you could go with. A less finicky option would be a bivy, but it would also cost a chunk more. I also didn't include the weight of line, but if you went super light, it would add less than an ounce, so, for the sake of argument, I did not include it.
Both the Zero1 from this drop and the tarp setup would cost close to the same amount, and the tarp setup would in fact weight around 4-5oz less, but it's going to be far more finicky to setup. Personally, I prefer the simplicity of an all-in-one solution. The less items I carry, the better. Perhaps you'd prefer a tarp setup, but that doesn't mean anyone who prefers one is invalid.
If for no other reason, one of the major wilderness areas I live close to has a rather high population of rattlesnakes. I'd rather not wake up with one snuggling me. And I doubt I'm alone. A lot of people prefer fully-enclosed shelters for a lot of reasons.
Neist
35
Jan 27, 2016
UsefuldiotActually, I forgot a groundsheet with a tarp setup, if you wanted to use one. Tyvek would probably be 2-3oz and Polycryo would weigh about 1.5.
Would you need a groundsheet? No, but a lot of people like them.
Would you need a groundsheet? No, but a lot of people like them.
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