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ZOMOPLUS Aluminum & Silicone Kitty Paw Artisan Keycap
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ZOMOPLUS Aluminum & Silicone Kitty Paw Artisan Keycap
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If your cat at home won’t high five you, or won’t show you any affection at all (which is more than likely), these keycaps can make things a little better. CNC’d from aluminum in five different colors, they look like a cute little kitten’s paw Read More
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keyboard_arrow_downtokyocoffeenerd
881
Tokyo Keyboards
Feb 5, 2018
For anyone who joined this drop; Just know that this a stolen design from Key kollective, one of the most famous keyboard artisan makers in the community.
know what you buy. https://www.keychatter.com/2015/10/14/artisan-series-interview-with-kudos-and-koala-t-keykollectiv
know what you buy. https://www.keychatter.com/2015/10/14/artisan-series-interview-with-kudos-and-koala-t-keykollectiv
brenda52411
181
Feb 10, 2018
tokyocoffeenerdI have just started reading this discussion, as I am / was interested in this buy. I love my cat. What more can I say to explain why I am here?
Is it POSSIBLE to buy one of the "originals" ? Anywhere? I would gladly buy one (or more) of the originals, if they can be purchased - anywhere. I have attempted to follow all the links, but it appears as though the company was having a raffle (8 months ago?). People had to enter, to hopefully WIN a chance to BUY one of their little gems.
I missed that raffle, as I didn't know it existed. What are my chances of finding a kitty key pad, to purchase? If the original is not available, how shameful is it to buy a "copy"? My cat would never know it wasn't an original. Yes, I would rather buy an original... but if not possible... it would be a secret between my cat and me.
Is it POSSIBLE to buy one of the "originals" ? Anywhere? I would gladly buy one (or more) of the originals, if they can be purchased - anywhere. I have attempted to follow all the links, but it appears as though the company was having a raffle (8 months ago?). People had to enter, to hopefully WIN a chance to BUY one of their little gems.
I missed that raffle, as I didn't know it existed. What are my chances of finding a kitty key pad, to purchase? If the original is not available, how shameful is it to buy a "copy"? My cat would never know it wasn't an original. Yes, I would rather buy an original... but if not possible... it would be a secret between my cat and me.
platypus.king
40
Feb 8, 2018
For those interested, I found the most recent sale page for the KeyKollectiv cat paw keycaps in question:
https://www.keykollectiv.com/sales//meowcaps-v3-sale
For some minimal direct comparison, here are the white-paw, pink-pad versions of both keycaps. KeyKollectiv: https://i.imgur.com/z9Eo0y3.jpg
Hopefully, this helps any potential buyers decide whether or not they're comfortable buying the Zomo keycaps. I don't intend to express support or rejection of either side; only to add something which has helped me form my own opinions (along with reading through the discussions here).
For some minimal direct comparison, here are the white-paw, pink-pad versions of both keycaps. KeyKollectiv: https://i.imgur.com/z9Eo0y3.jpg
Hopefully, this helps any potential buyers decide whether or not they're comfortable buying the Zomo keycaps. I don't intend to express support or rejection of either side; only to add something which has helped me form my own opinions (along with reading through the discussions here).
brenda52411
181
Feb 12, 2018
Thank you so very much. The original ones are ADORABLE. But, as you said, they just can't make enough to allow the whole world (or probably what seems like it, to them) to buy one.
What are these adorable little things even MADE of?
I'm going to buy one that is "close enough".... it's cute... not quite ADORABLE, but cute.. I'll keep my eyes open for an original (now that I know they were made). If I happen to fall into finding one for sale, I will think I'm the luckiest person in the world, but I'm not going to spend a horrible amount of money for the privilege to purchase it... (but sure would be nice if I could find one that needs rehoming.) I could give it a really loving home. My cat would LOVE it.
UGH -- I just went to order one, and the sale is CLOSED!! ARGH!!! If anyone ordered an extra one, and would like to rehome it, I would *LOVE* to buy it from you... sigh.
What are these adorable little things even MADE of?
I'm going to buy one that is "close enough".... it's cute... not quite ADORABLE, but cute.. I'll keep my eyes open for an original (now that I know they were made). If I happen to fall into finding one for sale, I will think I'm the luckiest person in the world, but I'm not going to spend a horrible amount of money for the privilege to purchase it... (but sure would be nice if I could find one that needs rehoming.) I could give it a really loving home. My cat would LOVE it.
UGH -- I just went to order one, and the sale is CLOSED!! ARGH!!! If anyone ordered an extra one, and would like to rehome it, I would *LOVE* to buy it from you... sigh.
beard_tan
14
Feb 12, 2018
brenda52411They're cast resin. They put a lot of time into sanding and polishing them to get them to look perfect! Good luck on your search if you ever set out to find one! And snuggle your cat for me, he's a cutie!
bushmastuh
86
Feb 6, 2018
What is with the horrible analogies I'm reading in the comments? Lol... An artisan keycap is NOT the same as different variations of the Cherry switch, typefaces, or a damn mug. Stop comparing apples to oranges. This "artisan" resembles, at face-value, KK's artisan. It's made of aluminum for easy mass-production. It's not a resin-based artisan paying homage to cats. We can all see it for what it is. Those defending the obvious similarities aren't convincing any of us in the community that this is artistic by any means. You should just let it go, admit it's similar, and move on with the fact that you're paying $33 for a copy that won't hold resale. It sucks you couldn't get the "real" one. That's the only reason you're all being overly sensitive about it.
MaxwellDemonic
838
Feb 9, 2018
I've seen this same argument between my friends. They all collect (and some make) artisan vinyl toy sculpts. They also get super salty when one of the large producers of toys rips off a small batch design for mass market. They also get salty that Pop vinyls are popular because the quality is crap.
The big thing here, and the point you both keep going back and forth about is simple: If people are happy buying something that suits their taste over the "genuine article" so to speak, so be it. There is never a need to defend your tastes to anyone.
It seems there is a discrepancy over what one would consider "artistry". I've seen people working on the original molding process for mass produced toys, it's painstaking and takes exceptional amounts of work. At some point in the process, someone had to make the master from which all those keys are cast, and that still took time, skill, and dedication.
Not sure it's $33 a cast artistry, but that's between people and their wallets.
The big thing here, and the point you both keep going back and forth about is simple: If people are happy buying something that suits their taste over the "genuine article" so to speak, so be it. There is never a need to defend your tastes to anyone.
It seems there is a discrepancy over what one would consider "artistry". I've seen people working on the original molding process for mass produced toys, it's painstaking and takes exceptional amounts of work. At some point in the process, someone had to make the master from which all those keys are cast, and that still took time, skill, and dedication.
Not sure it's $33 a cast artistry, but that's between people and their wallets.
HotRoderX
753
Feb 5, 2018
I want people before they comment that its a rip of another cap to think about this. Is it really artistic to take something from nature and copy it almost 1:1?
There a lot of up in arm's over this cap being a copy of another from a well known artisan that has done some amazing work. I am sorry taking something as simple as a cat paw which is found on every cat since the begin of time. mating it to a key cap. Is not artistic. It is cool it looks nice and its fun.. fugu thats artistic, Kosmonavt some of the most amazing artisan's ever.
Saying something as ambiguous as a cat paw can be used with almost no modification as exclusive is just plan stupid. I bet some of the same people would agree with apples claim they patented rounded corners on electronic devices. Cause there phone had rounded corners so it must be unique and not just a function of natural design.
There a lot of up in arm's over this cap being a copy of another from a well known artisan that has done some amazing work. I am sorry taking something as simple as a cat paw which is found on every cat since the begin of time. mating it to a key cap. Is not artistic. It is cool it looks nice and its fun.. fugu thats artistic, Kosmonavt some of the most amazing artisan's ever.
Saying something as ambiguous as a cat paw can be used with almost no modification as exclusive is just plan stupid. I bet some of the same people would agree with apples claim they patented rounded corners on electronic devices. Cause there phone had rounded corners so it must be unique and not just a function of natural design.
bushmastuh
86
Feb 6, 2018
HotRoderXWhile this cap is "different" in its subtleties to KK's design, it's really about the thought that counts. In this community, you can't use the argument "but you're making a Cherry-profile keyset, so in effect, it's the same thing! A cat's paw is from nature!" You're barking up the wrong tree. Those companies who remake Cherry sets do so based on demand and to offer something not actively produced for us as a community to enjoy; different color combos, plastic variations, etc. It's about *honoring* the original design/profile. If Cherry was a community icon and made tons of custom sets to become something like SP, then GMK might not be so sought after. Catch my drift?
You seem awfully defensive of this cap, maybe because you jumped in and joined right away or something. You're missing the point, though. Zomo could've chosen to use ANY design, but they chose a cat paw. In aluminum. That looks like an artisan that KK put out. This community is about the effort, it's niche and deservedly so. We enjoy and respect artisans, boards, and keysets for the effort, skill, and attention put into those products. Something relatively low-effort like this cap understandably receives negative feedback from those of us that are serious to some degree about this community.
You seem awfully defensive of this cap, maybe because you jumped in and joined right away or something. You're missing the point, though. Zomo could've chosen to use ANY design, but they chose a cat paw. In aluminum. That looks like an artisan that KK put out. This community is about the effort, it's niche and deservedly so. We enjoy and respect artisans, boards, and keysets for the effort, skill, and attention put into those products. Something relatively low-effort like this cap understandably receives negative feedback from those of us that are serious to some degree about this community.
HotRoderX
753
Feb 5, 2018
I was planning to respond to your post Vigrith. I just hadn't had a chance. Honestly your one of the people I really respect on Geekhack, Massdrop also Reddit. I just got side tracked with work didn't get a chance to respond. I see what your saying thought.
Vigrith
4081
Feb 5, 2018
HotRoderXI understand where you're coming from with most of your comments; what really is copied, innocent until proven guilty, yada yada. The qualm I personally have and the main reason I decided to respond was that you said, and I quote, "I just think its poor taste the way some people make one line comments trying to persuade others not to buy into the cap."
The people providing evidence that Zomo (or people associated with them, I don't know if they're an organisation or some sort of collectiv) have copied designs and tried to sell them off to the public for their personal profit and benefit are not the ones dissuading potential buyers from joining - Zomo (and MD, to an extent) are the ones allowing that to happen. If they want see to their success then they should know better, both of them.
Respect is earned as is the loyal customer base that comes with it, no one is trying to spread rumours, uncertainty or doubt here; relevant information relating to the ones involved is being made available as it should be, that's hardly poor in taste, if the company/people in charge of the drop/item can't work past it then it's solely on them. There are no lies being told here.
The people providing evidence that Zomo (or people associated with them, I don't know if they're an organisation or some sort of collectiv) have copied designs and tried to sell them off to the public for their personal profit and benefit are not the ones dissuading potential buyers from joining - Zomo (and MD, to an extent) are the ones allowing that to happen. If they want see to their success then they should know better, both of them.
Respect is earned as is the loyal customer base that comes with it, no one is trying to spread rumours, uncertainty or doubt here; relevant information relating to the ones involved is being made available as it should be, that's hardly poor in taste, if the company/people in charge of the drop/item can't work past it then it's solely on them. There are no lies being told here.
swwest
18
Feb 7, 2018
Some super salty people here in the comments. Buy what you enjoy. If you want this, buy it and be happy. Be wary when you post it to reddit though since everyone will come out of the woodwork to shit on you apprently.
HotRoderX
753
Feb 8, 2018
swwestnot just them but some of the artisan community in general. I still remember being told I wasn't welcome in the community. They prefer to just trade things between each other. They don't really like new people coming in.
Could be why I take such a firm hard line stand on artisan's. I enjoy them I enjoy the work but there a lot of things I don't agree with. I am glad massdrop is offering these thought. I did happily order one for my Topre board. I am extremely excited to get it. I think it will look simply amazing.
I still hold true to the fact that such a basic design can't really be copied. I mean the original might have come from a design of a trinket or even mug. perhaps a paper weight the artisan seen. I promised my self I drop that so I will. This is not something like a fugu.. are one of the other artisan's that is detailed.
Could be why I take such a firm hard line stand on artisan's. I enjoy them I enjoy the work but there a lot of things I don't agree with. I am glad massdrop is offering these thought. I did happily order one for my Topre board. I am extremely excited to get it. I think it will look simply amazing.
I still hold true to the fact that such a basic design can't really be copied. I mean the original might have come from a design of a trinket or even mug. perhaps a paper weight the artisan seen. I promised my self I drop that so I will. This is not something like a fugu.. are one of the other artisan's that is detailed.
Vigrith
4081
Feb 8, 2018
HotRoderXJust because you got treated poorly doesn't mean you should stand against others in a situation where they're in the right. I agree with you in that the artisan "hive mind" is one that is fairly hard for new people to penetrate, it is also full of things I disagree with and people I don't particularly want to deal with. I choose to stand on the fringe and deal with the people I think are worth it and take things at face value - Kudos and Koala (and many others) are not the kind of people that deserve to have you adamantly defend a company/individual that has admittedly copied designs (please look at my post about Zorb's Entling if you have not) just because you got shit on by the artisan cult of Reddit.
There is a difference between silent complicity and saying things like "I'm glad MD is selling these because the posse didn't want me". You made a conscious decision to support the project because of what you believe in, no one's taking that away from you unless you let them. There's no need to prolong the discussion to fight the big bad meanies of the artisan world.
There is a difference between silent complicity and saying things like "I'm glad MD is selling these because the posse didn't want me". You made a conscious decision to support the project because of what you believe in, no one's taking that away from you unless you let them. There's no need to prolong the discussion to fight the big bad meanies of the artisan world.
Nanosaurus
15
Feb 6, 2018
Sure, I'd buy this from KeyCollectiv if they were the original. But they don't even sell the keycap anywhere? Meanwhile I can get it right here and it's even aluminium instead of rubber, I'm sold.
MaxwellDemonic
838
Feb 9, 2018
Side note: I'd love to see more artisans use Massdrop. Jelly Key does them now and then (was lucky enough to get in on their Lunar Festival cap last year).
BlueCrowned
5305
Feb 9, 2018
MaxwellDemonicIdea23/busgamer, hotkeysproject and Gen.s all use MD off the top of my head.
EverTokki
46
Feb 6, 2018
i dont get it.. the paw pad is a lot circular and the overall shape is quite different than the "original keycap" being debated. like, it's a cat's paw for fucks sake. there's nothing to plagiarize except how cats look like. if it indeed is a ripoff, it's more similar to this cap (http://i.imgur.com/EFRWm0q.gif) than the one frequently mentioned on this drop.
agentmayhem
74
Feb 6, 2018
What a ridiculous controversy, this is a generic idea with a generic execution. That fully applies to the 'original' version as well.
Kennui
160
Feb 10, 2018
agentmayhemLmao people acting like KK own the concept of a paw on a keycap. They can get all the cookies for being first to execute the idea but that's all. The last sale (raffle) was about 8 months ago. No one needs to defend them.
The sculpt and shapes are different, the material is different, the feel is different. It's different in every way except concept. In many industries, variety and competition are good for the consumers but here, everyone is seemingly against it.
Is it to protect their 'investment' of ridiculously inflated artisans? If people knew you could get a similar (and superior) cap at possibly even a lower price, then the value of meowcaps will probably drop along with demand.
Anyway I was not interested in the first version that was all aluminium but this time round, the silicone pads make them an instant buy. This makes the cap even more different than meowcaps.
The sculpt and shapes are different, the material is different, the feel is different. It's different in every way except concept. In many industries, variety and competition are good for the consumers but here, everyone is seemingly against it.
Is it to protect their 'investment' of ridiculously inflated artisans? If people knew you could get a similar (and superior) cap at possibly even a lower price, then the value of meowcaps will probably drop along with demand.
Anyway I was not interested in the first version that was all aluminium but this time round, the silicone pads make them an instant buy. This makes the cap even more different than meowcaps.
Gajible
21
Feb 5, 2018
I'm not sure what I'm more disappointed by... People defending this crap or Massdrop enabling it.
You'd think there would be more respect for the artists of the community after so many successful collaborations between them and Massdrop. Money over integrity I suppose.
You'd think there would be more respect for the artists of the community after so many successful collaborations between them and Massdrop. Money over integrity I suppose.
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