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Zwilling Euroline Damascus Knives by Kramer
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Zwilling Euroline Damascus Knives by Kramer
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From Zwilling, a German company that’s been making high-end cutlery for almost three centuries, these damascus knives set a remarkably high standard. Crafted from 101 layers of damascus steel with a Super Gold (SG2) core, they look as good as they perform Read More
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keyboard_arrow_downmindbender9
46
Jun 28, 2018
Ok. Got my three Zwilling Kramer knives tonight - 1x10" Chefs Knife, 1xParing knife, 1xBread knife.
There are no real flaws or defects on the knives that I could locate, other than a couple of VERY small scratches on the bread knife's wooden handle (but these weren't noticeable). The original retail boxes were all in great condition.
So thank you MassDrop (I'm serious)! I got three Damascus ZwKramer knives at a huge discount, all of which arrived in clean, near-perfect condition (boxes AND knives). This is one of the best deals I've ever gotten, so thank you!
(p.s. PHEW! I was dreading that this would turn out much worse)
Here's a couple of pictures:
1. I already had a 10" ZwKramer Chefs Knife (bottom knife) that I paid full retail for, so it's easy to compare the two chefs knives. There were no issues with the MassDrop 10" Chefs Knife (top knife):
There are no real flaws or defects on the knives that I could locate, other than a couple of VERY small scratches on the bread knife's wooden handle (but these weren't noticeable). The original retail boxes were all in great condition.
So thank you MassDrop (I'm serious)! I got three Damascus ZwKramer knives at a huge discount, all of which arrived in clean, near-perfect condition (boxes AND knives). This is one of the best deals I've ever gotten, so thank you!
(p.s. PHEW! I was dreading that this would turn out much worse)
Here's a couple of pictures:
1. I already had a 10" ZwKramer Chefs Knife (bottom knife) that I paid full retail for, so it's easy to compare the two chefs knives. There were no issues with the MassDrop 10" Chefs Knife (top knife):
mindbender9
46
Jun 28, 2018
mindbender9The ZwKramer Paring Knife (which I really wanted) is perfect. No imperfections or defects on either the box (not shown) or the knife itself.
mindbender9
46
Jun 28, 2018
mindbender9Here's the bread knife. I realized that the "imperfections" aren't really noticeable, but I'm happy with it.
Silicone_Ducky
77
Jun 27, 2018
It's a good thing I didn't buy any extra as a gift, the box came all messed up, just like the other photos.
The cardboard holding the handle was all messed up and the point was sticking out of the box.
Also on closer inspection of the knife edge it looks mine has minor corrosion/water spots on it.
Shame it came like that but would have been great if we got a heads up on the condition of the knives.
The price sure makes a lot more sense given the condition, and I still would have bought it knowingly, but shady practices gives me less confidence in MD.
Did anyone receive a perfect condition knife like the photos that MD took?
Irishedgeworks
0
Jun 22, 2018
Just wanted to let everyone know massdrop just responded to me saying these knives dont have maufactures warranty but if you look on zwilling they are lifetime warranty. They also said they do not sell factory seconds unless noted and ive been in this for awhile only factory seconds lose there warranty this is epic bullshit
mindbender9
46
Jun 26, 2018
@Irishedgeworks - Thanks for the update. Can you let us know what issues were found on your knife so that I can locate any when my order arrives?
Also, what did you have to do to send your knife to Zwilling for servicing? Thank you for updating the group on your findings - most appreciated!
Also, what did you have to do to send your knife to Zwilling for servicing? Thank you for updating the group on your findings - most appreciated!
Irishedgeworks
0
Jun 26, 2018
mindbender9My choil is seperated from the blade and a mosiac pin was cracked zwilling is repairing those issues
Potatom
2
Jun 22, 2018
I have emailed Zwillig on such issues and they have replied saying:
"...for future reference, you can identify one of our “seconds” products by a dot on the blade near the logo. (These items are generally only sold directly by Zwilling at a significant discount. The visual imperfections do not affect performance, and the products are warrantied against manufacturing defects just as full-priced items are.) If you would like to return/exchange your knife, you will have to work with the seller/retailer."
Look for that dot. If it's the case that these are indeed seconds with dots but they have been sanded away or something before shipping then that's pretty darn fishy (not saying they are or have been but just hypothesising).
"...for future reference, you can identify one of our “seconds” products by a dot on the blade near the logo. (These items are generally only sold directly by Zwilling at a significant discount. The visual imperfections do not affect performance, and the products are warrantied against manufacturing defects just as full-priced items are.) If you would like to return/exchange your knife, you will have to work with the seller/retailer."
Look for that dot. If it's the case that these are indeed seconds with dots but they have been sanded away or something before shipping then that's pretty darn fishy (not saying they are or have been but just hypothesising).
mindbender9
46
Jun 22, 2018
PotatomI haven't received my order yet, but does your ZwKramer Santoku have that dot near the logo? I'm wondering if any of the received knives have that dot.
Thanks!
Thanks!
Potatom
2
Jun 21, 2018
I also think we got sent seconds. I myself ordered the santoku. Fit and finish was not as good as I thought it would be. Part of the damascus pattern on mine near the handle just looks...not right. Bolster also has a lil gap. Tad disappointed.
Dark_Knight
6
Jun 22, 2018
PotatomHi,
I have got the Santoku and mine also has same gap at handle and the pattern is little off near the handle exactly like the pics you have shared, i believe they are from same batch and got little defects on them, My rest of the products looks ok and some blades were dusty so i had to clean them, Thanks for sharing.
Potatom
2
Jun 23, 2018
Dark_KnightZwillig got back to me and said:
"The small gap in between the blade and bolster is actually within manufacturing specs (to allow the otherwise very hard, rigid knife to move a bit and prevent breakage)."
"The small gap in between the blade and bolster is actually within manufacturing specs (to allow the otherwise very hard, rigid knife to move a bit and prevent breakage)."
mindbender9
46
Jun 21, 2018
IrishedgeworksOh crap. That wouldn't be acceptable for a $450 knife (retail). It looks like others are reporting imperfections that Massdrop may have forgotten to mention.
Is there a warranty that Zwilling would honor for repairs since there was no mention of imperfections or flaws in the Massdrop offering?
Is there a warranty that Zwilling would honor for repairs since there was no mention of imperfections or flaws in the Massdrop offering?
Irishedgeworks
0
Jun 21, 2018
mindbender9Have no idea i will not return this unless they ship another one first
Jonathan-Le
165
Jun 20, 2018
I just received my knife today. Everything came in perfect condition. This is the most expensive knife I've ever paid for. I almost didn't join the drop. The knife is stunning and razor sharp. It is well balance and really nice to hold, even with my small hand. Just can't wait to try it out this week. Cheer.
mindbender9
46
Jun 21, 2018
Jonathan-LeWhile I'm happy that you've received your knife already, can I ask you - How did you receive it so soon? I'm expecting my package to arrive 7/6.
Jonathan-Le
165
Jun 21, 2018
mindbender9This question is for Massdrop to answer. As you can see, several peoples already received their knives too. So I guess first comes first serves ?
bnard893
23
Jun 16, 2018
My knife arrived today. I really like it, but I'm a bit disappointed with the packaging. It's held in place with some flimsy cardboard, and it came loose in the box and the finished looks like it was scuffed from rubbing on the box. Part of the logos were worn away. I'm not sure if there is anything to do about it, or if I should write it off and consider it as getting a factory second at this price.
Irishedgeworks
0
Jun 20, 2018
bnard893I comeing to the realization that these are all factory seconda which all have small flaws mine has scuffs on the bladw and a cracked mosiac pin. Packageing was also horrible tip of my santoku was sticking out of the box. This is utter bullshit that they tricked all of us
killa27
0
Jun 14, 2018
been 'shopping' around for a damascus for 8 years. . saw this, immediately jumped on the santoku, and am so fucking excited. it's already shipped and slated to arrive by the 24th. love at first sight.
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