Okay, so here's my question. We know that heat treating is the entire process and that tempering is the step following the quench. You're tempering to bring the hardness achieved post quench into a tougher, less brittle state, right? So if I have that all correct, you're telling me that you're quenching the steel and then tempering to achieve a post-temper hardness of 63 on your blank. You're telling me that if you were to test that blank...