Oct 11, 2018438 views

Kizer Minitherium in CF

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Anyone else getting in on the preorder for this on BladeHQ?

It's right around $200, but for some reason I'm not thinking MD will get a drop on this any time soon (no reason, just a feeling that I shouldn't wait)
I've always been a bit intrigued by the Megatherium, but it just looks way too big for my tastes. This one though, a 3" modified Wharncliffe in S35VN? That's right up my alley.

Also curious to hear any opinions from current Megatherium owners, about the quality of the bigger brother
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Despite the issues with the Minitherium, @jinjin19 pointed out a deal on the Megatherium that I just couldn't pass up (sorry, the sale is over now) Detent on this one is WAY better. Can still shake it open, but it takes much effort and a perfectly timed whipping motion. I haven't torn it down yet, but I may be able to improve it a hair more based on looking in at the detent in the closed position. Fit and finish looks just about flawless (subtle grind marks still visible under the blasted finish on just half of one side of the blade, but only visible at the right angle, I'll live with it over risking an exchange and getting a softer detent) It is biiig, but the handle on this one is ridiculously more comfortable as compared to the mini.
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Yes, I do remember the RaidOps issue and I do like having several options to consider when solving a problem. I fixed another knife with an awful detent that had the detent ball only 5% of the way into the detent hole by drilling it out. The bit cuts through the knife metal so easily it’s incredible. They are a little expensive, running around $10 per bit. I bought 4 from someone on eBay (drillman1...really good guy) so they were only $7 or $8 each (because I bought 4). It’s so great when things that really bug you, get fixed! : )
DougFLA123
Couldn't agree more! It's a great feeling when you can do it yourself and end up with something better then when you started 👍
What's your opinion on the Minitherium? My main question is can it be finger or "spydie" flicked open? I have the prism and love how it opens and this reminds me a little of that knife. How's the overall finish, quality of the Minitherium? Thanks for your time.
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Thanks, I think we have similar likes in knives and I trust in your opinions so thank you for saving me the disappointment.
Gunnersmate2
No problem :) Wish the sale that is on now was what the pre-order went for when I got mine :-/
Well, gotta say overall I'm pretty disappointed given the price 😒 Out of the box, detent was so weak it would fail to deploy more times than not without an additional wrist flick at the end. And don't even ask about how easy it was to whip open. Spent half the day today working on it off and on to get it close to something I'm happy with Detent ball didn't fully reach the hole, was only engaging about 30% at most To fix that I had to file down the liners to allow the stop pin to travel just a little further when it closes. I also beveled the leading edge of the lock bar, it's such a small detent ball, the bar was touching the side of the blade in the closed position. But then i had another issue to deal with....despite the fact that the backspacer didn't even fully enclose one of the standoffs in their attempt to create clearance, i still had to file down a LOT of material to make room for the blade in its new properly closed position At this point i can still cause it to fail to deploy if I try, shaking it open takes much more effort, but it's still doable. Oh, and the the backspacer wasn't flush with the spine of the handle north of the middle screw, I'll need to fix that later. Action is smoother now after the rebuild, shake shut. But ANY attempt to loosen the pivot even the tiniest bit to improve it further instantly introduces a TON of blade play, moreso then any I've seen from a couple degrees of a turn......which, i suppose, is why the handle was put together with blue loctite, but the pivot was done with permanent, had to use a heat gun to break it loose. All this work later, at the end of the day it's a nice looking knife, with a pretty awkward feeling handle, that i would've been happier at about $75 less.
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Kavik
Well, I ended up buying the Minitherium and guess what? It has a weak detent! What a surprise! Actually, I do like it. It’s very unique. I’m not going to do what you did, but I’m going to take it apart, oil it (it feels like it has very little oil on the pivot) and I’m going to try to push the lockbar in, past where it is now, so that maybe the detent ball sits in the hole more firmly, requiring more force to spring it free and hopefully snap open. It sounds good on paper anyway. I was able to fix the GiantMouse Ace Biblio and the WE 803F, which both had very weak detents and failed regularly, by doing those steps I mentioned above. They really went overboard with the packaging of the Mini T. I would have rather they checked the detent, then give me the coolest box in the world!
DougFLA123
Hahaha yes, it was the most impressive presentation box of any knife I own. I also would've preferred a better detent and a cheap box. Best of luck to you on an easy fix for yours 👍
I don't think so, I'm not (braces for impact) a huge fan of Isham's designs.
fhood
Lol there's a lot of his thatI don't like, but this one is a bit more subtle/subdued/tame than many, i thought
I'll be getting the Isham Abtruse carbon fiber from another drop site that is similar in design and price. It won't ship until late January.
stoutdog
Interesting design in that one too... Not sure about how skinny that handle is though
Kavik
I wanted another front flipper so that is why I chose it.
That sounds like a great knife to me! Unfortunately it's about the 3rd one I've thought that about this week alone. Lol.😆
T.willy
Lol i hear ya there, it's kind of never-ending 🤯
Kavik
You got that right Kavic! However there are worse problems a couple of knife knuts could have that's for sure. 😆
The Minitherium shown reminds me of the Prism, just the general lines of the knife. I really like my prism and have been considering the Megatherium for a while but the size was holding me back. I'm definitely in on this. Thanks for bringing this to light @Kavik
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Insert keyboard in mouth.
You are correct sir!
Gunnersmate2
There's definitely some overlap in design languages between those two models. But overall, I love how different the two designers are, despite the two having a love for clean flowing lines. Tashi loves to exercise his creative director artistic background and his affinity for text play (which is most apparent in his recent custom, the Answer) while Elijah likes what I can only describe as sci-fi future-tech bio inspirations (which is most apparent in the WE Eschaton).
This one caught my eye a few weeks ago. Really interesting and cool looking! I bet this knife won’t be dropped here for a very long time, if at all. This doesn’t look like one of those Kizer models that’s going to be sold at a 50% discount.
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The Buc (3.6oz) is almost 2 oz lighter than the Mega (5.43oz)...the Mini (2.96oz) weighs less than the Buc. The Mega looks like the perfect vegetable chopper for food prep. Your fingers are higher than the blade when chopping so they don’t hit the chopping block...just the blade hits. I wouldn’t use it for food prep but some of the reviewers said that they did.
DougFLA123
Yeah, can't say I ever use folders for food prep on a cutting board either. But I can see where it would be good for those who do
Hmmm I've genuinely been curious if we'd see Isham's work here, existing or as a collab with MD. Fingers crossed!
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Is that https://urbanedcsupply.com/ ? Do they have decent prices?
DougFLA123
I think so, they have similarities to Massdrop. I just bought a Scout screwdriver set https://urbanedcsupply.com/collections/all-available/products/scout-leather-co-hex-bit-driver-tool-roll for my knives yesterday for $60. It came with 12 bits and a leather roll and was $20 cheaper than a comparable driver with no bits or roll. It's also the only place I found the Abstruse in carbon fiber. They also have Quad Pay that breaks up your payment into 4 installments over 2 months to soften the blow.