Oct 12, 2018•1460 views

TwoSun knives

They've been brought up in a few threads here and there, and at the prompting of @Maugust09 I picked up a couple off "the Bay"
Word of advice, be patient and play the bidding game and if you don't mind waiting for China post you'll get them for like half the asking price.

Anyway, my first one just arrived today, so thought I'd start a discussion and share my impressions.

The TS35 FireAnt. 1.65" of (supposedly, i can't confirm, but *shrugs*) M390 in a titanium handle with a carbon fiber accent
Bought and shipped for $46.55

Flipped it about half a dozen times before tearing into it.... I gotta say, between the machining of the titanium, the finish on the blade, the design choices, the shape of the backspacer, and the tight tolerances....this seriously feels like Bestech all over. I know someone here was saying they believe Bestech makes them, and i pointed out that the US distributor for these knives claims they only make their own knives now....but damn if I wouldn't be convinced if you showed me this without a logo.

Size comparison next to the Rike Hummingbird

Has all the bells and whistles expected in a titanium frame lock : ceramic bearings (in nylon cages), bearing races, ceramic detent, steel lockbar insert with overtravel stop

The hardware feels seriously high quality

The machining of the titanium is flawless
Handles are skeletonized (as if weight is a problem in this size lol)

However, this blade is severely thick for something this size. 4mm thick on a grind that's roughly half an inch tall... I expect this won't be much of a slicer 🙄
Only a couple minor complaints on quality, materials and build :

-The detent hole it's a little larger than the ball, so there some in/out blade play when closed, but not terrible
-the washers under the bearings are too soft and cheap metal. Polishing the surface made a difference, but it's disapointing to see they cheaped out there after seeing such quality screws

-on the tail end of the knife, the body screws thread straight into the titanium backspacer, and are threaded in the body holes too instead of a clean pass through, so not only do you have to be careful not to overtighten, you also have to line up perfectly and squeeze tight together while screwing to avoid a gap there. Would've rather seen the usual threaded tube insert
-last, and most troublesome on a knife this small, the pocket clip sits over the lockbar, making it hard to find the right grip to flip it

All that said, for the price you can get these at, I'm extremely impressed.
Looking forward to trying some of their full size knives to see how they compare, or if they have the same quirks
And, you'll have to go to the titanium anodizing discussion thread to see what else I did while I had it apart ;)
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In the short time I've been actively collecting these I've seen the bidding prices go up substantially, especially on the better models. That said if you're patient you can still scope out and snipe a good deal eventually. I just picked up one in M390 and titanium for a little over $80.
Seriously crazy specs for such a low price point. I wonder how they are doing it? These type of prices for these specs, fit and finish and functionality can perhaps have an effect upon the entire market? So far I don't see any ripple effects though.
So far the only effect I've seen is that the bidding prices are raising as they gain popularity lol Their buy it now prices are closer in line to some of the other Chinese brands out there. They must be making enough off those to cover the ones that go lower in auction. Kinda makes you cringe to think how much some of these other guys must be inflating their prices, huh? 🤔
The TwoSun TS80, by Vitesse Design. Titanium, carbon fiber, D2. can recommend :)

I have two, a M390 titanium, no screws, mortice and tenon, and a very similar one but with screws and D2. Folks have tested the steel on their TwoSun M390 knives and it's consistent with M390. Their titanium is TC4 usually -- ok but not bomb diggity. I'd say that material quality and build quality are good to very good, they tend toward the heavy side, especially on the D2 builds, the designs are a little busy without being captivating, maybe a little overdesigned. These cats are quite at home with CAD CDC. But they need to radius things off a bit here and there IMO, the finish sophistication just hasn't caught up to the design ambitions -- too many uncomfortable angles in the grip, the flipper isn't the most comfortable part of their knives either. But rock solid lockup and good design integrity. I find their overall design to be more stabbity than utility knife - thick blades, not slicers, but when I put mine thru daily paces they did just fine on boxes, letters, plastic bags and what have you. Can endorse :)
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Whole thing hits the scale at 137.7g. It came with a weird little tool for making adjustments to these little joints, but I haven't messed with it. Haven't needed to.
Interesting, thanks for sharing!
That happened to me with a couple of Leeks. Do you like your TwoSun knives? I might have to go fishing.
Still waiting on this batch to arrive So far, I'm fairly impressed with their build quality for their pricing, but I only have 1 full size and a couple of the mini ones I ended up not liking the full size one's handle, so I don't use it. And the minis are, well, novelty pieces. I'll be able to say better after these 4 arrive. Be patient with the bidding and you can get some crazy good deals though 👍
That was crazy quick. Ordered between March 21st and 23rd, all 4 arrived on April 1st, from China, MD could take a lesson lol
Haven't had time to tear them down or test them out yet, but initial impressions: all 4 feel all around well made. Smooth action. Very respectable factory edges. Only the second one down in the pic has way too weak of a detent, the rest are average to really good. I'm loving this little pebble of a front flipper up top! Excited to have gotten my first Integral, even if the overall look of the knife is a bit funky (third one down) And i don't know what I'll end up doing with the bottom one, it's a bit big for my tastes
So....a thing happened yesterday Bidding on 4 TwoSun knives at once... And i kinda accidentally won all of them 😳 It's a dangerous game sometimes 🤣 Integral titanium with m390 blade
Titanium and D2
Titanium and D2
Titanium with m390
Gonna have lots of fodder for my new anodizing setup 😁
You can check out reviews for most if not all these TwoSun Knives on YouTube by searching for Luvthemknives channel, & he also regularly sends batches of various knives to a company that tests the steel and the Rockwell hardness of all the submitted knives. So far, I believe all the TwoSun knives tested have come back genuine.
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Lol yeah, some of it gets a little silly. I've always got a couple pounds of extra crap on me. There are very few knives I own that I can even feel the weight of in my pocket, if I'm wearing jeans. I think balance is more important than overall weight, until you get into unreasonably heavy
true this
Full size specimen finally arrived 😁 TS22 for $44 shipped Overall I see much hope for their full size models, the majority of my complaints on this one were with regards to design choices (parts of the handle feel way too thin in the hand, making it a bit uncomfortable, and the clip rides on the lock bar) And, of course, I'm going to complain about being able to whip it open past the detent. But it's strong enough for a good solid flip 9 time out of 10 But fit and finish of the parts was all pretty damn good again. Hardware is still very good. And my one previous complaint about the crappy bearing races was addressed with this model. Grooved races on this one are as nice as any other knife I own. Anyone have suggestions for popping an inlay though? That thing is wreaking havoc on me trying to get a smooth anodizing on this thing. They said it was CF... I don't know what it is, but I see no fiber pattern, it's definitely very conducive though!
Weird hot spots around the inlay and an unintentional fade where the power was drawn away 🤔
My next TwoSun mini arrived today Model ts41 (with the cross on the handle in the size comparison below)
I was already fairly impressed with the price:value ratio on the first one, but this one has some very important improvements, much happier with it

Still the standard stuff, Nylon caged ceramic bearings, ceramic detent, steel lockbar insert. Same quality feeling hardware as the last one. The differences though :
-the stop pin on this one fits the hole MUCH better and isn't deformed -the detent hole was drilled more cleanly
-the action is much smoother -the backspacer is held in place by pins and the tail screws thread into a threaded tube as they should, rather than threading into the titanium backspacer -most importantly, the pocket clip DOES NOT land on the lockbar on this one, so it's MUCH easier to use And, i don't think i mentioned it in the last one, but check out the polished detent ramp...I have knives that cost 5 times as much that don't bother with this step!
Only thing I'd still like to see is better quality bearing races All that said, it's still a tiny knife, with 4mm stock on a blade that's only like half an inch tall.... But it's still a neat little piece that I paid less than $40 for, so I'm okay with it being more of a novelty piece. A letter opener that I can do more anodizing on to keep myself entertained 😁
Go American.
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Most of us do. But you know how it is, you also like a little variety now and then. It's worth pointing out that one reason these cats got as good as they did because they've been making 'American' knives for 'American' companies in their city for a long time now. The shareholders of those companies are the people you really want to talk to if you want folks to go American, because if they did, that'd have a lot more impact. As for me? Sheesh, telling me I can't have it just makes me want it more. :)
I'm pretty sure you can just leave it at 'titanium framelock' for $50. Ain't happening. But I'd also argue that that's not really the biggest point. the problem with American knives isn't that you can't find one with a titanium frame and ANY washers or bearings with ANY steel for $50, or for that matter the price they actually cost here. The price is what it is for custom artisanship in the first world. Nah the problem isn't what people like you and I have to pay for our sharp not-a-toys. The problem isn't those kickass knives w/ premium steel and space age alloy handles and extra cool blade locks, it's that the makers don't want to make versions with 440C blades and micarta handles and liner locks and bronze washers for $50 to people who need good knives to get by and are sick of stuff that breaks after a few months.. But these companies don't, and the reason they won't is because they're afraid they'll dilute the value of their brand in the eyes of their shareholders.
I'm still waiting for mine. Regular post takes forever to get to me. Almost makes me want to move closer to a city.
I saw these on instagram and became interested. I got a TS21 on ebay for $46. Super smooth, comfortable, solid and somewhat early lock-up. They do have competent sharpeners at the company as well, it came sharp and even.
Who knows if the steel is really D2 or heat treated correctly, which is the only thing you should really be wary about if considering purchasing one (I can't tell from my experience; it has performed fine for me so far). This is a very competitive budget knife as it does not feel budget at all.
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I forgot about this post from before, just happened to scroll past it. Just wanted to share that LuvThemKnives sent a few of these off to be tested. So far they all came back as being the advertised steel, and a good hrc 👍 Not that it matters, as long as they're working well for you, but a little extra peace of mind can't hurt 😊
Cool thanks for the heads up
I got my first Twosuns last month. The quality is shockingly good. I personally feel, even better than Bestechs. Gasp! Not to knock Bestech they are stellar for the price as well.
Now the "rumors" I have heard are that Twosun is just a team of two brothers who do their own design and manufactur, but who knows. Hard to tell if any of the information we hear about Chinese knife companies is true or not. I wouldn't be shocked if most of the knives coming out of China were made by only a handful of OEMs.
I digress. Great knives from my experience! I wish they were easier to come by.
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Can't remember the model I got, but it's D2 with a green anno'd titanium handle. $40. That's a crazy good deal!
I wonder the same thing about chinese OEM. They make knives for spyderco and kershaw crkt foreign lines along with sanrenmu. Hell ferrum forge are made by WE knives. I wonder who makes the twosuns? The 4 ive owned have been exceptional value for what is recieved And i have plenty of american made knives. If you put a big name brand made in america on a twosun ti framelock it would cost $150 + easily.
Thanks for taking the time to buy and review a Two Sun. I own a lot of their knives. I agree they feel like bestech but if maybe it's the other way around. May Two Sun is making Bestech knives. I have been buying Two Sun knives for a couple of years. As far as I know, Bestech has hot been around that long. Either way, Two Sun has been the best kept secret for a long time. They make a quality product and always come wicked sharp.
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If you like Funky.. I have a "TS21 Update" they do some crazy deep acid etch or something on the handle of the TS21. I have both versions and they too are among my favorites.

It's like trying to name a favorite child. lol I love them all. Some Two Sun knives are just funky and just a conversation starter with a wicked edge lol Like this wild child. TS83
Lol i know what you mean
I do like that etched handle on the TS21 well, have looked at that one a couple times now
nice review. That bottom one definitely screams 'Bestech' lol! I'll have to grab one or three... 😊