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VRacer111
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Nov 19, 2018
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You don't really need to spend over $300 to get a most excellent closed back headphone... the Modhouse Argon Mk3, which is closedback planar headphone that I like over any other planar I've tried and even my Fostex TH-X00PH... You just need the amp to drive them properly. Bass quality is second only to my STAX L300 Limited... really deep extension, quick speed, excellent note separation with extraordinary detail, really punchy presentation, and with a sound scape that is reminiscent of listening to speakers but not as mid-forward. My modded TH-X00PH has an absolutely bloated mess of low end compared to the Argon, and it's noticeably better than a stock Purpleheart. The only thing the Purpleheart does better is subbass presence with a massive sound/energy unlike most anything else. Ever since getting the Argon's I'm struggling to think of another closed back I have liked better. For technical abilities such as speed, clarity, punch, dynamics, and resolution I would slot the Argon in between the HD58X and modded STAX L300 Limited, actually being much closer to the capability of the STAX Lambdas. It's pretty much similar to a Focal Clear, but with more punch and low end. Just need to properly power the Argon to have it show its real potential, will sound lacking and flat when under-powered. Will go from flat planar sounding to an extremely good dynamic driver type sound quality when an amp is proper for it. I really liked and considered eventually getting the Campfire Audio Cascades after having a 10 day audition with them earlier this year, with close to 100 hours of listening time. They are very nice portable closedbacks. But the Argon's have changed that... no inkling whatsoever to pick up the Cascades anymore.
Nov 19, 2018
Xstase
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Jul 8, 2019
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VRacer111Hi sir ! So if I understood you well if I buy single-ended MK3 Argon and try to run them off my new ROG Strix X570-F Gaming mobo, they wo't sound good at all ? I think this headphone would be amazing for fun gaming with a nice mic alongside. Maybe I could try to run them on mobo for a while and then invest in Dac+Amp like the Element from JDS Labs. Have a good day o/
Jul 8, 2019
VRacer111
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Jul 9, 2019
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XstaseFor gaming (console) I run mine directly out the Xbox 1 Elite controller and it sounds okay. Not as good as dedicated desktop DAC & amp but fine enough to play. Audio section should be good enough on your motherboard for it to sound decent. For computer rig setup just try using a Vmoda Boom PRO microphone cable to see how it is right out of the motherboard. Later then try an external DAC/amp combo to see how things change. Its good for gaming straight out of a controller for me, but does get better with higher quality upstream gear (DAC and amp.) I will say though, that for both gaming and music I'm enjoying my newly closedback modded HD58X more than the Argon Mk3. The cups do at a minimum cost about as much as a new HD58X by itself though, and only go up in price from there depending on the wood you want. Basically it's ~$400+ with pads though, but it's much easier to drive and sounds fantastic from any source, along with better fit and comfort than the Argon Mk3. Really have not been using the Argon Mk3 since the recent conversion of one of my HD58X to closed back. Closedback HD58X is currently my gaming headphone of choice.
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And the built-in microphone on the cable doesn't sound half bad... https://youtu.be/YC3CmufRFr4

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Jul 9, 2019
Xstase
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Jul 9, 2019
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VRacer111Oh interesting, I bought HD58X 3 months ago and found its bass lackluster, I haven't modded it and heard about Argons which could be an upgrade for bass but pretty hard to drive. Your HD58X looks cool with wood. When I don't use HD58X for music or gaming solo, I pick up my PC37X, great mic but I'd say the sound is a bit worse than HD58X. With Borderlands 3 and Cyberpunk 2077 incoming I'd like a flagship headphone with cool bass, Argons looks perfect, maybe I should try your HD58X mod as you love it even more than Argon.
Jul 9, 2019
deshan
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Nov 24, 2019
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VRacer111did you make those cups yourself or is there somewhere you can buy them? I have 2 pairs but was looking to trade one for some closed backs but If they are easily modded I'd like to consider it.
Nov 24, 2019
VRacer111
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Nov 24, 2019
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deshanI got them from here: http://headphile.com/page4.html Hand-made in choice of many various tone woods.
Nov 24, 2019
deshan
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Nov 24, 2019
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VRacer111Cool thanks! How is the noise isolation with the Wooden Cups? I have noisy children that like to play their tablets right next to me and I can't hear anything with my standard 58x on.
Nov 24, 2019
VRacer111
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Nov 24, 2019
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deshanIsolation is much improved, but will really ultimately depend on pads used. Stock pads will let more sound through than leather/hybrid pads. Leather/hybrid pads will change the sound though... so on stock pads you will get increased isolation but not like you would with the leathers. The Yaxi pads I'm running are hybrid Alcantara and leather pads with a noticeable increase in isolation over stock pads - make the HD58X sound warmer and darker though. Isolates well enough to clearly hear music/games but still will have a noticeable level of background noise in louder enviroments (but well enough reduced from stock). Not like the DT-177X GO on the leather pads which pretty much isolates you very well from the outside world. I have window A/C unit in my living room... stock HD58X wasn't a good option for gaming. Works very well with the closed back conversion...very good option with A/C running and making a racket. Might consider getting your kids some Koss KSC75s... you know... to reduce the noise level.
Nov 24, 2019
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