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What is the BEST PBT KEYCAP manufacturer?

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In light of receiving my first proper ABS set, I am sorely disappointed. The profile, the material, and the feel of the individual keys doesn't do anything for me.
So, In your humble opinion, what is the best PBT Keycap manufacturer?
If the rumors hold any weight, EnjoyPBT and IMSTO are essentially Gateron PBT keycaps, with dyesubs completed by each company respectively. BSP is supposedly the king of PBT.
What do you guys think? Please list the PBT you have tried and which you find to be the best?
Me?
1. Gateron by miles
2. SA DSA (meh, honestly enjoyed #3 more but the "quality" is better)
3. Vortex

<3 Gateron PBT & Cherry profile.
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LuckyDucky
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Jul 7, 2022
Novel Keys makes some great PBT caps, I also think that PBTFans from KBD are high quality.
Mechkeebz
8
May 7, 2021
A company called "Akko" makes some surprisingly nice double-shot PBT keycaps, either in cherry profile or an SA-esque profile called "ASA". I got mine off Amazon, and for the price was expecting junk, but was very pleasantly surprised. I would recommend them.
Kenshiro70
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Oct 27, 2021
MechkeebzThe Akko display cases for the keycaps are also a work of art. I'd love a group buy of just the cases that I could use for other key sets. Also, I'm not exactly sure of the relationship, but it seems like Akko, Epomaker, and Skyloong all have the same parent company. Akko seems to focus on keycaps, Skyloong on cheaper keyboards, and Epomaker on more innovative designs. Ajazz might be in the mix too. I'm not sure.
LemonadeJoe
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Jul 8, 2022
Kenshiro70Huh, I got a set of Akko lavender purple switches on Amazon for a very reasonable price. I expected meh but received awesome switches & ordered more. For me they’re the best light tactile switches, but I’ll have to check out the key caps too.
Shalakazaam
596
May 6, 2021
cherry profile sux tho
GUtz
3
Feb 8, 2021
MdotMaxson"I honestly am not picky as long as it’s not ABS. I’ll take knock off aliexpress chinese crap over GMK any days." That's some next level snobbery right there. Pinkies out when you type, plz
Shalakazaam
596
Nov 15, 2020
although ive used a nightfox PBT set and am currently using MDA pineapple PBT, im not sure ive ever tried ABS and i do like the shine ABS acquires over time. can u explain the difference between the two materials and the feel of ABS or the things you dont like about it in more detail? thanks
donutholer
206
Feb 10, 2019
probably dyesubs
bmilcs
196
Dec 25, 2018
What I'd ideally like to find is a EnjoyPBT/Gateron-quality PBT keycap that has a rougher, almost bumpy surface.
Kenshiro70
137
Oct 27, 2021
bmilcsMe too. Where do the Drop keycaps fit into your thinking? I like the texture but would be interested to know where the fit on the continuum of textured surfaces.
Young_Won
26
Mar 19, 2018
leopld PD
da-kid
6
Apr 9, 2018
Young_WonAre u talkin bout leopold doubleshots?
Young_Won
26
Apr 10, 2018
da-kidYES : ) PD keycap mean is PBT Doubleshots.
Muiju
237
Mar 14, 2018
EnjoyPBT because KBDfans has the best customer service. They seem to aborb sound very well.
bmilcs
196
Mar 17, 2018
MuijuDoesn't sound like advertising at all.
Flowshi
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Jan 20, 2018
So far I have used Vortex, Varmilo/Leopold and KType PBTs (probably Tai-Hoa) caps.
Varmilo are by far the best. Dunno what it is excactly, but I just love them. The font is timeless and they have a nice texture, sound and feel. I wish they would make double shots.
My Vortex are laser engraved. They are fine for their price, less/ no texture, very smooth, use them at work, pretty loud, but so far noone comlained.
KType caps are well, somethere in the middle, pretty rough texture, bit to much for my taste. I dont like the font and some of the modifier icons, but probably the best shine through PBT available.
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