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TelFiRE
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Sep 15, 2017
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BlueCrowned
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Sep 15, 2017
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TelFiREWhere in this post did Brad say "the Halo switches in the K-Type are not authentic"? In fact, he said "The K-Type Keyboard with the HALO switch remains on target for delivery to its customers."
LevelSteam
Sep 15, 2017
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TelFiREYou're misunderstanding the situation. They will be authentic Halo switches. IC doesn't have the ability to stop that from happening. However, seeing as how this looks to be the end of the partnership between Massdrop and IC, they could be some of the only Halo switches you'll see.
TelFiRE
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Sep 15, 2017
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BlueCrownedPlain as day in the post. "Their response was to tell us they would make their own HALO switch, to demand that we change the name of the HALO switch, and to demand that we inform all K-Type purchasers that they were not going to receive authentic HALO switches."
If Input Club says these are not authentic HALO switches, they are not authentic HALO switches. I couldn't give a hoot what the licensing agreements are, INPUT CLUB is the company I trust to design a good switch.
If Input Club says these are not authentic HALO switches, they are not authentic HALO switches. I couldn't give a hoot what the licensing agreements are, INPUT CLUB is the company I trust to design a good switch.
TelFiRE
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Sep 15, 2017
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LevelSteamI think you're the one misunderstanding the situation. Input Club designed the HALO switches, not MD. If they say these are not authentic, then that's a fact. Legal strong-arming doesn't change the reality that MD has no clue what makes a good switch and it's only IC that deserves any kind of trust in this matter whatsoever. Without IC, MD is nothing.
LevelSteam
Sep 15, 2017
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TelFiREThe switches are already designed, and neither Input Club nor Massdrop are making the actual switch, Kailh is. You're getting the exact switch that you selected and paid for during the group buy, and other than demanding Massdrop say they're "not authentic" (which they are), there's nothing IC can legally do to force Massdrop to rename the switch, due to the way the contract they entered works. Like it or not, Massdrop appears to legally own the rights to distribute these switches, although they likely won't be offered again for the reasons I mentioned.
If you're bothered by any of this then I'd suggest taking up the status of your k-type order with Massdrop customer service. You'll probably be able to get a refund on it, which is more than making demands in the talk section can accomplish.
If you're bothered by any of this then I'd suggest taking up the status of your k-type order with Massdrop customer service. You'll probably be able to get a refund on it, which is more than making demands in the talk section can accomplish.
PhantomTaco
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Sep 15, 2017
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LevelSteamThey own the product, not the name. According to the information released by I:C, nowhere in the contract is the name Halo included.
LevelSteam
Sep 15, 2017
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PhantomTacoFair enough, but I think we're just splitting hairs here. Based on all the information available, anyone that bought a k-type will get the switches that they selected. It's what will happen going forward from here that will be affected by this falling out between IC and MD.
Even if MD gave in and said that these switches aren't endoresed by IC or whatever, it isn't going to change anything about the quality or specs of the switch. The switches will still be produced by Kaihl, and they'll be the same as if this entire thing never happened. They could call them Kaihl Creams or something, it's just a name in the end.
Even if MD gave in and said that these switches aren't endoresed by IC or whatever, it isn't going to change anything about the quality or specs of the switch. The switches will still be produced by Kaihl, and they'll be the same as if this entire thing never happened. They could call them Kaihl Creams or something, it's just a name in the end.
TelFiRE
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LevelSteamOr they could just let Input Club sell their own switches and avoid all this drama and ill will. I fail to see what they stand to gain by making it harder for consumers to get something they refuse to sell themselves.
LevelSteam
Sep 15, 2017
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TelFiREThat's the thing, no one is gaining anything from this and that's what stinks. It sounds like the problem stemmed from IC trying to distribute them through their kickstarter sale. Like I mentioned in a different comment this all seems pretty petty on both sides, but it is what it is at this point.
BlueCrowned
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Sep 16, 2017
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LevelSteamI see where MD is coming from, but I had not thought of your point that Halo switches may never be available again and that just really stinks. I held off on buying the K-Type because it was a bit expensive for me at the time, and had planned to try halo trues with a cheaper hot swappable board later on.
LevelSteam
Sep 16, 2017
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BlueCrownedI'm right there with you. I passed on the k-type in favor of some caps I wanted elsewhere at the time, thinking I would either get one at a later drop or try the switches on their own. Looks like that won't be happening anytime soon. :/
TelFiRE
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Sep 16, 2017
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LevelSteamNo this is 100% Massdrop in the wrong here. IC did everything in their power to make it clear (even publically) that the switches would be available from them from the very beginning. Massdrop is using a technicality that even lawyers disagree on and large legal team threats to stop IC from selling their own product.
TelFiRE
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Sep 16, 2017
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BlueCrownedBut that's the whole point in the first plce. MD refuses to make the switches available outside their keyboard. IC did everything in their power to prevent that exact thing from happening, and MD C&D'd them when they tried to do exactly what they had clearly communicated all along they were going to do. Now MD is insisting that the switches just never be made again. That is 100% MD! Nothing IC did short of signing over all rights to anything could've made this situation come out good for consumers, but there were 80 options along the way for MD that would have resulted in happy customers. They would prefer to be the epitome of an evil company and use legal strong arming to shut down any possible competition, than to make MORE money and have happier customers, but let Input Club sell their own switches.
LevelSteam
Sep 16, 2017
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TelFiREYeah I read IC's response to this post and I'm siding more with them on this. This whole situation is incredibly strange and while I'm not personally going to boycott either IC or Massdrop this fiasco isn't going to benefit anyone. Hopefully they can sort this all out in the near future :(
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I also will not do business with MD any more. I used to be one of your biggest defenders, but things are drastically downhill. I definitely trust their side of events more than yours, when you've dropped the ball repeatedly lately on every drop I've been in, and it's not like this is the first company complaining that you tried to exploit them.