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SkyyM

May 24, 2019

This is still not good. the 96 key (90%) layout would be åerfect for this keyboard you just dropped this keyboard with this layout please take some inspiration from it. https://drop.com/buy/nym96-barebones-mechanical-keyboard

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griponreality

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May 24, 2019

SkyyM

I almost bought the Nym, but wanted hot swappable switches, LEDs, passthrough USB more than a slightly prettier layout. I agree that the Nym would be an even cleaner board to copy. I'm using an IKBC 108, which I love outside of a few issues (their implementation of a countdown timer using the LED lighting is absolutely bizarre and renders many of the higher numbered F cluster useless and unmappable, and the micro usb connection is incredibly weak and pliable given it is connected to a 6 pound aluminum deck. Having the key rows all align perfectly just looks right, be there gaps or no. That could be remedied on the Shift by (please excuse the heresy here), lowering the ctrl key (maybe even numpad carriage return) to the longitudinal position of the arrow cluster, creating less of a sense that the arrow group is a mistake. That would have made it more fun from a branding sense if this one was the ctrl and the TKL ctrl was the shift, but it could still work. The other thing the IKBC and others like it do well is put the indicator lights between the numpad cluster and the top right F row, aligned to the seams between the 4 keys there. This allows the gap between the Enter key and numpad look closer to being the same as all the gap around the arrow keys. Or, if the case had four indicator lights, having one in between the f row keys and three between the backspace, \, and enter keys and their numpad rowmates would look pretty sharp. Maybe the extra indicator could be for USB passthrough power draw, or some other creative purpose. Maybe the F row hole would just match the indicator light holes and be a microphone for audio based lighting triggering like on some other PCBs. While throwing out all this, what if the case had some kind of modular space for the use of an optional bluetooth/battery add on that would work with this and future versions of the alt/ctrl? Also, do we know what USB standard the pass through is going to use? That hypothetical modular space (or even built in on some side or back) would be a pretty badass place for some dongle killing hub features like SD card or headphone jack. The modular pieces could be swapped for new when standards change. Think like ryobi 18v tool line. A nerd can dream...

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krazysamurai

141

May 25, 2019

SkyyMI disagree with you here. I own several 96 keyboards in the same layout as the NYM96 barebones keyboard you referenced. I love the compact layout, but no matter how many months I've spent typing on one, I can never seem to consistently put my fingers on the arrow keys without glancing down. I keep hitting the 1 or 0 numpad keys by mistake. I recently stepped up to a TX-CP, which has a similar layout to this new iteration of the Shift keyboard. The 96 may look sexy with it's minimalist layout, but that tiny amount of space separating the arrow & numpad keys from the rest of the board makes such a tremendous difference that I'll never go back. I never have to glance down now. Aesthetically, the 96 format is beautiful. But from a practicality standpoint, THIS is the better layout IMHO. But to each his own, I guess. YMMV.

killingjoke26

Jun 1, 2019

griponrealitywhats a numpad carriage return, what are you talking about

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griponreality

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Jun 1, 2019

killingjoke26Enter keys used to be called the carriage return on typewriters because it would cause the carriage to return to the far position and start a new line. That’s why some keyboards say return instead of enter.

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