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Duncan
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Oct 17, 2017
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It's time! We can finally announce the winner. We've gotten through the initial paperwork and now we're working hard to bring this design to life. I'll keep you all updated as we get closer to launching the official drop for this keycap set.
Congratulations to... *dramatically long drum roll... GARY LIM! The designer behind "2077".
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On behalf of all of us here, we want to thank the community for getting behind this, participating, voting, and submitting your designs. There's obviously more than one winner in this group, and we're very much looking forward to doing this again soon. I've said it a million times, but it's true.
And keep sending us your feedback. We've seriously read through every comment and e-mail and note left via the Google Forms and we're taking it all to heart. We obviously want to improve upon this entire process from start to finish.
Big questions for us right now are the voting round(s) and keeping the next contest to one profile (i.e. DSA only) or not.. Anyway, many of you have let me know already, but keep your comments coming.
Stay tuned for the next updates in this process. We're making our preparations as we speak and I'll let you all know when we have some more news.
THANK YOU, (All of us at) Massdrop
Oct 17, 2017
SYSTEM-GLITCH
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Oct 17, 2017
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Congrats to the winner. 2077 was an excellent design, one of my early favourites and clearly the most deserving of the finalists to win.
Oct 17, 2017
THRILLHOIAF
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Oct 17, 2017
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Congrats to Gary! I knew as soon as I saw his design that he'd probably win! Great modifiers, unique/retro-sci-fi colorway! Definitely looking forward to this drop in the near future! ESPECIALLY if its in DSA/SA profile!
Oct 17, 2017
Glimy
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Glimy
Oct 18, 2017
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Thanks to everyone who voted for me! Really appreciated! :)
Oct 18, 2017
HotRoderX
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Oct 18, 2017
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Grats to the Winner I hope it does well.
Oct 18, 2017
control
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Oct 18, 2017
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Congrats to the winner! Will be interesting to see the finished keyset when it drops!
I also hope the contest managed to kickstart several new keysets!
Cheers! :)
Oct 18, 2017
erickong
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Oct 18, 2017
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Big congrats dude!
Oct 18, 2017
Widabo
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Oct 18, 2017
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That's awesome! I love the look of this set, I'd jump on this in a heartbeat if it were in SA or at the very least DSA. I don't want another cylindrical set, I'm not buying this if it's in GMK.
Oct 18, 2017
HotRoderX
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Oct 18, 2017
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it looks like a GMK set won so pretty sure they will go with GMK as the producer. Personally its not my choice nor a set I would buy into! Maybe we well get what we desire next time. I am pretty sure at this point thought input as far as looks/profile are pretty much mute cause community voted and the majority picked.
Oct 18, 2017
Duncan
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Oct 18, 2017
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That's one of the details we're working out right now behind the scenes. The set was registered as GMK, but depending on feasibility, we may need to change to DSA. I'll give you guys as many updates as I can as this all gets finalized. I want to remain as transparent as possible so you all know what's happening and when.
Oct 18, 2017
Widabo
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Oct 18, 2017
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You might want to do a poll because I think that a large percentage of us would actually prefer DSA to GMK, plus the creator said here that he'd be open to a different profile: https://www.massdrop.com/talk/2428/place-your-votes-in-the-keycap-set-design-contest/1840987
Would it be possible to make it in SA or is that too implausable and DSA is just much more accessible?
Oct 18, 2017
HotRoderX
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Oct 18, 2017
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Obviously I was wrong before but I think the problem with SA is lead time. The company responsible for SA has a back log that is spanning months and months. I even read on the forums some people are getting quoted times of October/2018 for production of sets. I think that was the main reason they said no SA profile this time. Sadly this sets still not for me but hopefully everyone gets what they want and it does well.
Oct 18, 2017
Duncan
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Oct 18, 2017
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Yeah, we've been talking with the designer (Glimy) and we know he's open to the change. Not sure about SA to be 100% honest but DSA is on the table. Yanbo and the team are working hard to get the best solution. Stay tuned.
Oct 18, 2017
Makami
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Oct 18, 2017
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Congratulations to the winner!
What's this contest/voting worth, if the conditions of the participants are changed afterwards. It's funny that GMK is gone at the winning picture. Wasn't it obvious before voting that this layout chosen had been very unlikely to happen in GMK profile?
I havn't voted for the (winning) Cheeseburger to get offered a Hamburger afterwards!
Oct 18, 2017
LevelSteam
Oct 18, 2017
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I kind of agree. I didn't vote for 2077 since I didn't see it happening in GMK and I'm not really interested in DSA (which it would be possible with). I'm not mad, but I do think this is a good opportunity for Massdrop to see why working out these things before the contest is important.
All the same, congrats to the winner nonetheless: )
Oct 18, 2017
LevelSteam
Oct 18, 2017
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I know SP's SA profile queue is long, but has MD looked at running something like this through Maxkey? I obviously don't know how your contracts work so if that's not possible it's understandable, but it's just an idea.
Oct 18, 2017
Makami
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Oct 18, 2017
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I'm not mad or angry either, it's just unfair for the other participants, the voting/result may not reflect reality.
This contest seems to be rushed and not well thought to the end, which reminds me of my complaint at the beginning, but i dont want to start that discussion again.
Oct 18, 2017
HotRoderX
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Oct 18, 2017
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I think that a bit harsh.. honestly there no way to predict every possible out come. I mean something felt like they could have been planned better but I also think its the nature of the beast. The first time is always awkward and there are lots of things you face palm about. Given if they don't improve in the next contest then we have a right to be like! Look this was rushed this wasn't planned properly etc etc. Perhaps this is just my experience from IT work talking. Regardless of how well planned something is when its released the public someone will break it.. someone will figure out how to make it better..
Oct 18, 2017
Makami
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Oct 18, 2017
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Ty for your feedback!
Your answer could have been mine almost four years ago, but being here for so "long" and having had a good amount of time in MD slackchannels, my point of view changed a bit.
Every single person at MD i've talked to over the years had been very nice and i would go for a beer ... with all of them, but people and the Company itself are often a different pair of shoes (don't know if this german saying translate well).
Have a nice day
Oct 18, 2017
control
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Oct 18, 2017
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Curious about this as well. Is SA profile an exclusive deal with SP?
Oct 18, 2017
HotRoderX
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Oct 18, 2017
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SP and Maxkey are the only two heard of as having SA Profile. Maxkeys are typically cheaper but have Kenneling issues there trying to work out. ((Think spelled that right))
Oct 18, 2017
control
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Oct 18, 2017
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I think their kerning issues have been fixed now in recent keysets (confirm anyone?).
I was wondering whether the contract MD has with SP means that SA profile keysets have to be exclusively manufactured by SP.
Oct 18, 2017
Duncan
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Oct 18, 2017
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This is definitely all valid and valuable feedback especially for me personally given I'm obviously not an expert in the Mech Keys Community (yet). Alot of what's being talked about really comes down to this being our first time doing this. We actually planned this for a while, and even with that, there's a loooot to account for.
@Makami pointed it out exactly, I left it out of the 'winning picture' because there's currently the discussion as to how we best produce it. Makes a definite argument for either limiting (i.e. DSA only) or excluding the profile specification altogether next time we do this so people are voting for pure design quality.
Oct 18, 2017
LevelSteam
Oct 19, 2017
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SA is just a profile and currently only Maxkey and Signature Plastics have the molds to produce it. As @HotRoderX mentioned, Maxkey is fine tuning their molds to fix things like the notorious "SHIF T" kerning, as well as "BACK SPACE" and "ESC" instead of "ESCAPE". I have a set on order with them (Calm Depths) that this is all supposedly fixed in, so I'll report back with a post in a couple months when I get it.
My question was more along the lines of whether or not Massdrop has an exclusivity contract with Signature Plastics that would prevent them from taking advantage of Maxkey's SA instead. Another drawback however is that Maxkey currently also lacks some of the more specialized molds that SP has, so there wouldn't be as many compatibility kits.
Oct 19, 2017
control
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Oct 19, 2017
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Yes, sorry if I was unclear. I was reiterating your question.
Please do report back! Very interested in hearing whether they fixed the kerning.
What specialized molds do they lack?
Oct 19, 2017
LevelSteam
Oct 19, 2017
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Just various more obscure key sizes and such. Most boards would be fine, but people with split spacebars, planks, ergodox boards, etc would find the keys offered to be lacking.
Oct 19, 2017
control
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Oct 19, 2017
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Thanks for the heads up! :)
Oct 19, 2017
Widabo
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Oct 19, 2017
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That's disappointing to hear, as somebody who uses a planck.
Oct 19, 2017
LevelSteam
Oct 19, 2017
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You could always get some SA blanks from Signature Plastic's site to fill what you need, they just might not match up exactly with the colors from Maxkey.
That said, Maxkey does seem to be offering more options each time I see a group buy with them, so in time they might have just as many molds as SP.
Oct 19, 2017
BlueCrowned
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Oct 19, 2017
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I'd definitely prefer DSA as then I can mix/match with Legacy DSA :D
Oct 19, 2017
3KidNerd
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Oct 21, 2017
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Hey, can you put up a drop request page that we can join now so that we're reminded when it becomes available? I don't want to miss the drop. Thanks!
Oct 21, 2017
Duncan
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Oct 21, 2017
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We're preparing it right now actually. It's just taking some time as we finalize the details and make proper renders. I'll be absolutely sure to share it out when it's up!
Oct 21, 2017
3KidNerd
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Nov 13, 2017
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Has there been an update?
Nov 13, 2017
Duncan
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Nov 13, 2017
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Yes, indeed. What I can tell you now is that we're currently working on renders, generally preparing the drop page, and we're officially going with DSA! As soon as I know when we'll be launching the drop I'll be updating you guys once again.
Nov 13, 2017
BlueCrowned
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Nov 13, 2017
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!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nov 13, 2017
Duncan
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Nov 13, 2017
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Nov 13, 2017
KM1337
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Nov 25, 2017
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When are we going to do another one of these? Got a set I'm working on.. <.< >.> <.< >.>
Nov 25, 2017
Duncan
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Nov 25, 2017
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Can only guess that we'll do it again in the first few months of next year but we haven't locked it down yet. Definitely doing this again so it's just a matter of time. Keep up the good work and build that hype, my friend.
Nov 25, 2017
KM1337
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Nov 25, 2017
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Choo-Choo. Hype train! lol Least I will have some more time to work on things :P
Nov 25, 2017
HotRoderX
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Nov 25, 2017
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This is a good thing! cause if people start now they can build some serious hype for there set.. could you seen something like Laser if it was in the contest.. It been no contest at all "chuckles"
Nov 25, 2017
KM1337
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Nov 25, 2017
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Yeah, hard to compete with a freggin' Laser. hah.
Nov 25, 2017
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