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rastus
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Aug 25, 2019
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MQA is another unneeded ploy by the recording industry to control music distribution and collect tithe... the artists are out of the barn along with DSD & FLAC,, they really don’t need a “recording industry” in the old sense very much... anymore... thus their concern, and why they push MQA... We have high speed streaming w/o the need for some form of musical software/hardware origami unfolding, really... we were able to stream "Gone with the Wind" in under 2 sec. back in the 90's,, consumer stuff is just catching up... I will next be getting a BT & “open” WiFi unit, with no licensing fees the next go-around. Get a DAC/player with everything else you want... that also happens to have MQA... Project is a good choice,, or... try a recording made in dsd, played back in dsd; rendered back to analog on an r-2r dac, amplified through some free-electron valves, into some decent cans or speakers,, mqa,,, really... we need this musical origami for exactly what,, again?? Tithing to Warner Records? Nice mqa chat here: https://drop.com/talk/18394/why-doesnt-massdrop-offer-any-da-cs-capable-of-rendering-mqa-files/2489757
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Aug 25, 2019
SorinN
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Aug 26, 2019
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rastusThe problem for me with DSD is that there isn't a convenient way in which I can access DSD content. From what I know, MQA is the only high-res format available in the streaming platforms that I have access to in my country and is also available on the cheap (via Tidal). Even though I do like collecting and listening to records the truth of the matter is that convenience also plays a big factor for me when it comes to listening to music. And when it comes to that nothing beats streaming services, so this is why I want an MQA-enabled DAC.
Aug 26, 2019
rastus
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Aug 26, 2019
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SorinN""Ulyate has always felt that music fans were never hearing the whole story. Given the compromises made at every step in the mastering and production process, information disappears, the sound loses its life and power and the final product was always lacking. He's been on a mission to find a way to make that "wire between the artist's brain and your brain be as short and direct as possible.""Hi-Res is that conduit," he adds."" ""Hi-Res for streaming is fantastic idea, I've heard some of these new technologies," says Ulyate. "And we're on the verge of this revolution."" https://www.qobuz.com/US-en/info/Videos/Ryan-Ulyate-We-re-on-the-verge-of182002

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=330&v=eJu0n_EXk1c Petty comments: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl_MQwc4qOE Cruising Tidal is also what I do for casual listening. If I want something better I go and see if there is a quality file somewhere. Use MQA here, where it benefits you, but it is the latest sneaky distribution/"DRM"/control/skimming deal, trying to put the animals back in the burning barn... folks such as Warner are behind mqa... And don't forget this crazy mess'n with the signal shit... "The MQA Core signal is also preconditioned for generic DACs." Even for the final 'unfold' they state: "platform-specific DAC compensation and management according to the hierarchical target" WTELF...? http://bobtalks.co.uk/blog/science-mqa/mqa-playback/# A fellow named Rod Serling (his real name - parents..;) told me back in the 90's, that he could "squirt" Gone with the Wind, the full f'n movie, in under two seconds, I think he said that he thought he could do ~1.2 sec., to any location on Earth, he worked for Hughes... while we are not seeing this exact technology, we are getting great stuff now, more to come with QCL's, Tbit/s anyone? https://www.spiedigitallibrary.org/conference-proceedings-of-spie/10926/1092617/Free-space-optical-communications-with-quantum-cascade-lasers/10.1117/12.2515651.short?SSO=1

https://www.photonics.com/Articles/QCL_THz_Frequency_Combs_May_Become_the_Future_of/a63791 All these mqa folks are doing is making themselves money, by not using bandwidth, that is actually available today... to consumers. You are paying, essentially, for a "negative license", for a platform coding program, that is not required,,, if you have high speed internet. Use MQA with Tidal now, as I am - but will likely switch - unless Tidal figures this out... You will see streaming folks like Qobuz grow by offering 24/192 merrily streaming along, with no origami... https://www.qobuz.com/us-en/music/streaming/offers DSD is great along with things like 24/192 FLAC,, with a good recording/mastering... When the patent ran out, Sony 'gifted' the audio community with DSD. Yes, way-- way-- back when... it was also a marketing takeover attempt,, but, but,,, they had to try to do this - with a better tool/system/platform, that was SACD, know it now as DSD, and DSF with meta data attached. You can download from various sites, such as: https://store.acousticsounds.com/c/372/DSD_Download?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIr_vt--Cg5AIVTf7jBx3GxwvyEAAYASAAEgLbBPD_BwE Recorded in DSD available here at Blue Coast Music; heavenly shit: https://bluecoastmusic.com/meghan-andrews/fire-single A great player is Audivarna: https://audirvana.com/product/ Blog/news DSD Site: https://dsd-guide.com/ Reads: https://boingboing.net/2018/12/20/taste-the-toxic-rainbow.html
https://dsd-guide.com/sites/default/files/Andreas%20Koch%20-%20Raising%20the%20sample%20rate%20of%20DSD.pdf
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Aug 26, 2019
ElectronicVices
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Aug 26, 2019
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SorinNDon't get too caught up on hardware based decoding for MQA. I'm still on the fence as far as MQA goes but honestly a ton of content maxes out at 96kHz/24bit even with hardware decoding. Since pretty much all modern phones (worth a damn) and the desktop apps have software decoding for MQA up to 96kHz/24bit you aren't missing much. I've not been able to discern much of a difference with my KANN Cube. I have various albums in Redbook, 96kHz/24 and 192kHz/24 and many times the difference is negligible. The streaming apps are great for finding music or collecting stuff I don't want to pay for. For DSD it's hard to beat HDTracks but I have zero idea of it's availability outside of the us. I would focus more on other features you need rather than focus so heavily on hardware MQA.
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Aug 26, 2019
Jackula
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Aug 26, 2019
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ElectronicVicesMQA can sound good, but mostly because it's a different master when played at 96khz to trick you into thinking they're better than redbook. Another thing with Tidal is I find a lot of their 44.1khz content lacking in quality, especially the tracks that are MQA enabled, compared to the same tracks I have on CDs, most of the time my CD rips are better.
Aug 26, 2019
ElectronicVices
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Aug 26, 2019
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JackulaThere have also been some posts (not here, still lurk elsewhere) that indicate there is some software goofiness going on with output from the app... cant find the post at the moment but one user asserted the output from the native app differed from the Roon stream. The Roon processed Tidal stream was supposedly almost perfectly matched to their local rip while the native app output differed. The post lacked which albums and masters they were using so take that with a grain of salt.
Aug 26, 2019
Jackula
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Aug 26, 2019
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ElectronicVicesYep, I think you mean the recent discussions on Computer Audiophile (now Audiophile Style), link: https://audiophilestyle.com/forums/topic/30381-mqa-is-vaporware/page/677/?tab=comments#comment-980050 Also when I download the FLAC files off Tidal (I developed a tool for this), they sound much better when played through Foobar.
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Aug 26, 2019
rastus
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Aug 27, 2019
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JackulaThanks for the link, interesting insights into this mqa pit... the shills shine brightly...
Aug 27, 2019
ElectronicVices
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Aug 27, 2019
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rastusNot just MQA, Universal was "watermarking" their stream with what essentially equivocates to high frequency noise added to the source file. Supposedly that is coming to an end/has ended but reliable info is scarce on that front.
Aug 27, 2019
rastus
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Aug 28, 2019
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JackulaHoly Mother of God... finished the thread... darkness is trying to descend upon the sound of music once again, it's name is MQA, gather all your clean and uninfected FLAC & DSD files now! Care to share that Tidal tool? Wondered if this was doable.
Aug 28, 2019
Jackula
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Aug 28, 2019
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rastusI can give you the tool sure, just I'm on vacation with my family right now. The tool requires registration and I wish there was a way I could pm you the details on Massdrop. Edit: actually you could message me on head-fi, I use the same username there.
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Aug 28, 2019
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