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Narq
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Oct 3, 2019
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OakParkMusicGuy
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Nov 28, 2019
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NarqI agree. Although I use the 6XX for gaming just because I like the more tamed treble. As a classical musician, the 6XX sounds more critical while the 58X more ‘fun’. I’m happy I own both!
Narq
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Nov 29, 2019
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OakParkMusicGuyI would certainly do it your way, however I'm plugging in directly to my keyboard's headphone out, so I like the lower power requirements of the 58x.
Narq
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May 30, 2020
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rckidytNo doubt, they'll run without the horsepower, but some of us are more sensitive to the distortion, which is especially obvious in the types of sounds a full range synthesizer generates. Headphones need a lot of juice to reproduce the crazy sub-lows that synths fart out. To my ears, the 58x just seems more willing to play along, without help.
eddiezr
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Feb 17, 2021
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OakParkMusicGuyIf the 6XX has a more tamed treble wouldn't that make the 58X the more "critical" one? I understand the 6XX is described as more neutral, so does that mean the treble on the 58X is exaggerated or unnaturally boosted?
Curious 🤔...
OakParkMusicGuy
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Feb 17, 2021
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eddiezrI don't think so. To my ears the the 58X has a slight U-shaped eq voicing so the bass and treble are more prominent. In comparison the 6XX has more mids with its flatter voicing. When I listen to classical music with the 6XX I can hear much more subtle details in the strings. But I think this can come at the cost of being a bit fatiguing to the ear when listening for long periods of time. A lot of details in music are in the mid range.
eddiezr
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Feb 17, 2021
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OakParkMusicGuyAh, I think I understand. It isn't the high end on the 6XX that's potentially more fatiguing, it's the more forward midrange. You gain clarity and detail in the mids but the "price" is extended use ear fatigue.
I do appreciate midrange detail because that's the range where most musical information exists, but I do tend to eq with a slight "u" shape, so it's a bit of a contradiction, aye? 🤔
Hmm, interesting dilemma...
OakParkMusicGuy
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Feb 17, 2021
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eddiezrWell put! What do you usually listen to? If you want just a great everyday pair of headphones for any style then go with the 58X.
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eddiezr
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Feb 17, 2021
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OakParkMusicGuyI mostly listen to rock of all types and eras, with acoustic styles such as singer/songwriter, folk and blues my favorite, but also most jazz up to 70s Coltrane and Davis with a little more contemporary stuff here and there; Metheny, Corea, Zorn...
I do not listen to much classical on headphones, because I prefer that genre on my large speaker system. I need the visceral energy when Tchaikovsky's timpani are slamming--or those howitzer canons!--or the airy 3D space around Diana Damrau's supernatural Queen of the Night.
I listen to a lot of "ethnic" music: African, Pakistani, Brazilian, Flamenco, etc. where vocals are crucial.
I realize your question was rhetorical, but I never turn down an opportunuty to recite my musical idiosyncrasies. Thanks for asking! 😁👍
I own the 58X! Love them, but was considering the 6XX to check out their fanatical reputation. I auditioned the HD700 and HD800 in a shop and found the 700 to be not significantly better than the 58X in terms of dynamics or overall experience although detail and clarity were noticeably improved, while the 800 was too clinical, cold and unforgiving for my taste. The Focal Clear are sensational! And $1,400!! 😱 They're like Sennheiser's ideal sound fully realized with added stage and presence. So that makes me curious about the Drop Alex which is $500 less than the Clear and reputed to be very similar. Too many options 🤪...
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nevets2396
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May 12, 2021
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NarqHi, I hope you are still active. I was was wondering if you can recommend me an amp for these headphones?
Narq
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Jun 8, 2021
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nevets2396Drop has made some big changes, and not necessarily for the better, in my humble opinion, so... I haven't been visiting the site nearly as often as I once did. Sorry for the delay. I'm sure there are audiophiles here that have better informed opinions. I use the JDS Labs' Element II. It's a combined DAC/Amp that is well-built, simple to use and setup, and sounds fantastic. I've used it for years and it's still delivering the goods. That's all I can recommend. I haven't used anything else. Hopefully, others can give you better advice.
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Casedistorted
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Nov 16, 2022
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NarqIs there any sound difference besides volume potential when using the 58X with or without an amp? I’ve had the 58X for years now and have never tried using an amp with them, I just plug them into the front audio port of my PC case and I can get them plenty loud using the RealTek Control Panel in my OS.
i have considered ordering the nicer $60 ear pads because the stock ones are too hot and uncomfortable for me, and have also thought about buying an Amp to plug the 58X into just to see if there’s a sound difference at all (or if it’s all just volume potential).
if you can actually hear more with an amp i am curious
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- The subjective/personal experience of which sounds better (and there are hundreds of opinions out there about which one sounds better and/or how they are different). Even if 2 people agree on how they differ in sound, they might disagree on which they prefer.
- The objective difference, of which there is really only one that matters- impedance. You have to use an amp with the 6XX @ 300 ohms. You can get away without one on the 150 ohm 58X (but I don't recommend it). Otherwise, I don't find any spec or build differences that really matter (at least for me).
If you're on the move, with your phone, and don't want to slip a portable headphone amp in the chain, the 58X would be the better choice. Personally, I use my 6XX with an amp, primarily for gaming and listening to music that is on my pc. My 58X is plugged into a keyboard, without an amp. They both sound and feel fantastic. Choosing between them, for me, is fairly impossible. I love them both, I would be fine with just one or the other. And, at the end of the day, I don't think anyone could make a wrong choice by buying either one or both. The only bad decision would be not to buy one at all.