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Tbonedaugherty
2
Dec 20, 2017
When I make just a simple bread I always end up with dense end product. What are some things that I can do to get lighter softer bread?
pattayt0
1
Dec 21, 2017
Tbonedaughertywhats your recipe, how much yeast are you adding, how much time are you letting the dough rest for?
mrstbenton
1
Dec 21, 2017
TbonedaughertySift your flour before measuring it.
lizardo
8
Dec 21, 2017
TbonedaughertyI had the same problem when I started. The number one thing I changed is to not add too much flour. I go for an almost sticky dough. I also use a stand mixer(Kitchenaid),which eliminates the temptation to keep adding flour when hand kneading. I used to add flour until the dough was not sticking to the bottom of the bowl at all, now I go for a dough that just sticks to a small patch in the very bottom.. Also an inadequate rise will make a dense loaf. Poke with your finger. As soon as it stops springing back it's ready. My go to site for recipes and information is kingarthurflourdotcom. You don't have to use their products to benefit frothier knowledge, though I do and really like them. They have a toll free helpline anyone can use too. For a white sandwich bread search"Our favorite bread by hand or machine". Makes 3 loaves that freeze well and make even the premium breads in the grocery store hang their heads in shame.
cmain
5
Dec 22, 2017
TbonedaughertyHigher hydration and sufficient fermentation/proofing time will definitely help. It can be a bit scary to work with higher hydration dough the first few times. You can calculate your hydration as the ratio of flour to liquid (e.g. 100g flour to 75g water would be 75%). Doughs in the mid 70s usually turn out pretty light and airy. If you make something like a ciabatta you can go even higher into the 90s.
One important thing is to make sure you develop good gluten structure in the dough too. A technique called the stretch and fold can help do this with higher hydration doughs. Also the advice below of "Poke with your finger. As soon as it stops springing back it's ready." is a great place to start for knowing when it is ready to bake.
islandflour
3
Dec 23, 2017
TbonedaughertyA lot of things are happening in bread when you make it. May I ask what recipe you are using? It sound slike you're keeping it simple, which is good. I always recommend just using the bare minimum ingredients -- Water, flour, salt, and yeast. The more ingredients you add to your bread, the more complicated it becomes, and the harder it is to learn the mechanics of the four most important components.
When troubleshooting, it's important to understand why bread turns out the way it does. Wheat flour contains two key proteins -- glutenin and gliadin. When the flour is lubricated with a liquid, like the water in our bread recipe, the proteins slide around and link together, forming long, stretchy strands. The more water your dough has, the easier it is for the proteins to move around.
But just adding water isn't enough. Gluten requires some outside force to help develop and arrange those chained together proteins into the cell network that bread requires. Two processes contribute to this. The first, is yeast. As yeast eats the sugars in your bread dough, converting them to carbon dioxide and alcohols (which improve the flavor of your bread), it also works to develop gluten. The other process is kneading. By stretching the gluten strands and folding them back on themselves, you organize them into regular, evenly sized cells. The ratio of how much you knead to how much you let the dough rise will depend on the result you're looking for. Sandwich loaves should have a regular, relatively small cell structure, and most of the gluten development should be done via kneading. Artisan loaves should have a large, irregular cell structure, and so most of the development should be achieved via yeast and rising time.
If your bread is dense, I expect you didn't have enough water in your recipe. The gluten proteins won't have enough lubrication to fully develop. Without developed gluten, the cell structure can't form. Without the cell structure, the steam and CO2 from the yeast won't be able to make the dough rise. So yeah, more water. Also, I recommend using bread flour. It has a higher gluten content than AP.
Bakers often use the term "hydration" when talking about the ratio of water to flour. Specifically, hydration is the ratio of water to flour by weight. Bakers use weight to measure everything because flour is inconsistent. Its density can vary by batch, and the only way to make sure you're using the same amount of flour every time is to weigh it. As a starting amount, I recommend 60-65% hydration. That is, if your recipe calls for 350 grams of bread flour, then you should be using 210-230 grams of water.
Personally, I prefer higher hydration. In my standard loaves, I'll do 70-75%, and in more artisan, crusty loaves closer to 80-85%. Hydration impacts everything from oven spring, to crumb texture.
To avoid adding too much flour when kneading: Some people recommend oiling your hands and work surface to avoid over flouring. I don't like this method, because fats inhibit the formation of gluten and can change the texture of your dough. Instead, stick to flour. Dough should be kneaded with quick, confident motions. The faster you move, the less the dough will stick to your hands. Flour your surface and hands lightly -- as much as you need to but no more. Within a few minutes of kneading, the dough should be developed enough to not need any flour, because the gluten will be more interested in sticking to itself than to anything else. Really, the best tip I have is confidence and speed.
TbonedaughertyLike others have suggested, a wet sticky dough and a strong yeast with plenty of time to rise.
LeCheffre
42
Dec 25, 2017
cmainAll of this. Ken Forkish’s method is Brilliant for high hydration doughs.
A community member
Oct 8, 2018
TbonedaughertyKnow this was a while ago, but in reading the answers, I just wanted to put in my 2¢ worth. Higher hydration (think a little more liquid or less flour) would help. As to the "just water, flour, salt and yeast," that's not bad, but remember that some sugar and fat/dairy make a loaf that will last a little longer--sugar is "hygroscopic" (holds water) and fat just keeps it soft longer. Depending on where you live, the idea of using all purpose flour may or may not be a good idea. I live at a high altitude and need the extra gluten/structure in a bread flour.
Have any changes you've made made a difference?
gardey
90
Oct 12, 2018
TbonedaughertyUnless you post the exact recipe and methodology you are using, everyone can only speculate and write off the many, many things that can alter you end product.
By saying "simple bread," I am going to assume the ingredients are only flour, water, salt, and yeast. I am also going to assume you are making an "artisan bread," since a "lighter, softer bread" with just those ingredients can be a bit difficult.
Most of the replies given to you will help. I just wanted to add on that even before you make your dough, you can make a starter. This will ensure that your flour is as hydrated as it can get, which will vastly change your outcome than adding in flour or water during or after mixing, which should be for very small adjustments depending on the environment, not for tweaking. Here is random site on two common starters: http://www.weekendbakery.com/posts/more-artisan-bread-baking-tips-poolish-biga/
Also, just wondering, did you check your yeast? I apologize if you already know, but a reminder that yeast is a living thing and will go flat. Here is random site on how to check your yeast: https://www.thekitchn.com/active-dry-instant-yeast-best-tips-for-working-with-yeast-180312
Additionally, the temperature of your water can and will alter your dough (and your yeast). Dense means that your dough may be too cold (should be around 72F out of the mixer) and/or isn't proofing enough.
Finally, although it is difficult to do at home, artisan breads need steam to fully leaven and develop a crust. This can be done by making your starting oven temperature higher than on the recipe, then spraying water onto the dough.
Anyways, it's best to post your recipe at the very least since there are so many things that can alter your result, and usually its a combination of things instead of just one issue.
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