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CDBaudio
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Apr 30, 2020
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I'll add something in here that no one has yet said. It is time for one of these nice turntables to offer automatic function. I cannot for the life of me understand how less is considered better in this regard (In a $300 to $600 turntable there should be no way it can add "noise" during the playing of a record). When I bought my first turntable in 1980, it was the fully manual turntables that were cheaper. If you look at what Technics, Pioneer, Denon, Sony, etc, they all offered an automatic feature back then (even the venerable Technics SL-1200 series), with their models adding semi-auto and fully auto function going up the line. It is simply insane to *want* the stress of knowing you have to get up at the end of the record to set the arm back on the holder. To be able to sit and ponder what one just listened to is what is missing when you use a manual turntable. I say it is time to start pushing the manufacturers to add these features to better quality turntables. The Audio-Technica AT-LP2/3, Pioneer PL-30K, Denon DP-300F, etc are simply the same cheapo mechanism that has been around since the Pioneer PL-900 and is used in the low end AT-LP60. They even have the same platter, but have a slightly better tonearm arrangement. Perhaps what Denon does on the DP-400 could be somehow adapted to this wooden plinth AT? It could be done with electronics and switches these days, and other no mechanical means. I say the Drop+AT Carbon VTA is a great start at upping the game of the average turntable. That tonearm has an awesome mount and lifter setup. I do wish it was S-Shaped to match the standard headshell from my Technics. If I decide to get one of the current Drop+AT Carbon VTA units, a Que-Up will be added immediately... :) Also, belt drive is a must. Every Audio Technica ("Super OEM") type of direct drive turntable these days has noise coming out of the motor, whether it be "cogging" or something else. I have a Pioneer PLX-500 that makes this noise, and there are multiple reviews of the high end AT-LP5(x) with the same issue. Maybe the next time out ? I'll agree with others here that an onboard preamp and/or USB function is superfluous for most who will buy in this price range. The savings could go into that automatic function... ;)
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Apr 30, 2020
pm-94
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May 13, 2020
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i have to agree. i recently bought a technics sl1200 because i know that they are very solid and reliable. but, i'm finding myself going to CDs only because i don't want to get up every 20 minutes to stop the turntable. years ago, i bought a new pioneer pl200 as my very first turntable. i loved it. it had auto return, and that was good enough for me. i'm liking the thought of auto return on a fairly high end turntable. i think it's an upsell, rather than being lower end.
May 13, 2020
GUtz
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Jan 26, 2021
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FWIW if you can't get up every 20 to lift the tone arm, you don't deserve Vinyl playback. And that's fine; it's not for everyone.
Jan 26, 2021
CDBaudio
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Jan 26, 2021
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FWIW... you probably have never had an automatic turntable, which *used* to be the overwhelming norm in the manufacture of these devices. When you've listened for 20 or more years where you can just lay back, close your eyes and savor what you've just heard, it does inject unnecessary anxiety/stress in the whole experience.
Jan 26, 2021
GUtz
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Jan 26, 2021
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I've used many many many auto-return tone-arms. There's a reason why they're not included in today's setups. It's not a grand conspiracy. You have to get up to flip the record. You have to get up and sleeve your current selection, desleeve and platter the new selection - But you're concerned with the tone arm automatically returning? Seriously, do what you do - This is still a silly argument.
Jan 26, 2021
CDBaudio
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Jan 26, 2021
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You are correct - it is a silly argument started by a silly person (you). I trust you bought one of these?
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Jan 26, 2021
GUtz
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Jan 26, 2021
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Eh, technically you started the argument. And no, I don't own this particular unit. However I do own both auto-return and standard tone-arm units. This was your "argument" if you don't remember "It is simply insane to *want* the stress of knowing you have to get up at the end of the record to set the arm back on the holder. To be able to sit and ponder what one just listened to is what is missing when you use a manual turntable." It's simply not "stressful" - and get this, I can still ponder about what I just heard while unsetting the tone-arm
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Jan 26, 2021
hafler1
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Mar 17, 2021
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I considered this table, I like the carbon tonearm and adjustable VTA. Seems like a decent table.. But I went with a Fluance RT82 & upgraded cartridge and platter. No onboard preamp, belt drive, manual start, platter stops rotating at the end.. Most of my tables are semi auto or full auto..
Mar 17, 2021
PercyTheJeep
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Jul 11, 2021
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