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DragonStar
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Feb 28, 2018
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I hope some of these miners get burnt in the next crash. When it does crash there will be a bunch of cheap cards on the market. Only problem is used cards will be in questionable shape. As far as getting large orders, not a chance. Ram production is limiting supply then contractual and preferred commercial customers get first dibs on what is produced. Whats left gamers and miners have to fight it out for.
Feb 28, 2018
Aurrius
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Mar 2, 2018
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DragonStarWhy would you wish ruin upon someone else (everyone really) so casually? Then go on to discuss fragmented problems with manufacturer/production line issues? I do agree with your statement but I wish they could ramp up the supply for this emerging market. Demand should be met, and prices shouldn't be gouging the consumers. That is in and of itself a failure of the market, and a combination of greed by the people making them, for GPU's. That isn't you or I's fault. That's just disruptive technology. And it's all software at that!
Mar 2, 2018
DragonStar
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Mar 3, 2018
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AurriusLarger miners might order 50-100 cards or more to put in there farm. Leaving 50-100 individual gamers unable to get cards or even build there first PC on just that one order. Is it any wonder why many gamers think miners are cancer? Even if it's they are only (as a wild guess) half the reason why they can't get cards. Yes RAM use expansion and demand, limited production, and possibly shanagians by the producers is part of it but once produced millions have been removed from the market that they were created for originally, by miners. To make matters worse they will dump cards back on the market many of which are near end of life and in the process screw gamers a second time with dodgy cards flooding the market. With all that in mind can you understand the hostility? Just one medium to large miners screws many many, many gamers and in mass they may be wastefully using resources and driving up electric rates for everyone around the world.
Mar 3, 2018
Sloblo
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Mar 7, 2018
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DragonStareh, people vastly underestimate the durability of GPUs - any well run mining operation has long culled out the flawed cards to maximize profits, if you're buying off-sale from a working mining rig (again depending on who maintained it) you're actually likely to get a much better running card as they've filtered through xxx cards to get the best in the crop. If you manage your thermals properly there should also be no issue with running a card 24/7 as they are put through much more rigorous tests in QC.
Mar 7, 2018
boneburglar
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Mar 9, 2018
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DragonStargood news actually! While I am against mining, mining is not hard on a GPU. Most miners underclock their cards by a bit to save power
Mar 9, 2018
Sloblo
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Mar 9, 2018
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boneburglaryup, it's not cost effective to kill off cards so you want to keep them in optimal conditions.
Mar 9, 2018
DragonStar
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Mar 9, 2018
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SlobloIt is hard on cards. Components are only speced for so many hours. As examples fans usually are shot after mining and cards may only have 5000 hour rated capacitors, that's nine months at 24/7. If you take into account under volting one could argue a year. After that components are out of spec, They may last longer however a substantial amount of the cards life has been spent after a year of mining. That doesn't even account for electromigration on the GPU or memory chips. Saying "they've filtered through xxx cards to get the best in the crop" makes no sense as the cards that survived are beat to hell.
Mar 9, 2018
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