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Merv73
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Feb 24, 2020
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I hereby bring to your attention another possible "low budget" alternative to HD820 (in addition to my earlier suggestion: Beyerdynamic DT770 Pro @250 ohms + Asgard 3): Austrian Audio (run by former AKG technicians and management) will soon release the (closed back) Hi-X 55. I haven't heard it yet, but it looks promising. It's about the same price as an HD600 In Europe, and @25 ohms easy to power.
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Feb 24, 2020
Evshrug
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Mar 9, 2020
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Merv73Ah, but is it an easy to power 25 Ω, or is it an AKG low Ω and medium sensitivity where the headphone benefits greatly from a good supply of current? I doubt it would be as amp-hungry as the Fostex TH-X0 line, and I have happily owned AKG headphones for years. Good to hear “they” are continuing on as Austrian Audio, would be great if they were able to come or send demo units to a Can-Jam in the USA.
Mar 9, 2020
Merv73
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Mar 10, 2020
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EvshrugSensitivity is 118 dB spl/V. Watt = Volt squared / Ohms = 1*1/25 = 0.04 watt. So you would need just 40 mW to get to ear-damaging 118 dB spl. My guess would be an average smartphone would be able to drive it to normal to moderately loud listening levels without a problem. But the proof of the pudding is in the eating...
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Mar 10, 2020
Evshrug
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Mar 10, 2020
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Merv73Right, cuz we don’t know if it has a linear impedance curve... though I think the K712 Pro and some of the other AKGs did? Don’t hate please, but I have an iPhone with the lightning dongle. I have other options to drive my headphones, but do you happen to know the output impedence on the Lightning dongle? Is it 10 Ω like the old iPhones and iPods?
Mar 10, 2020
Merv73
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Mar 10, 2020
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EvshrugI'm sorry, I don't know that, you would have to contact Apple, maybe they know. Or mail to Austrian Audio, they likely tested the thing on an iPhone. If someone else on this forum knows: feel free to jump in :)
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Evshrug
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Mar 10, 2020
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Merv73I used to work at Apple, but I don’t have any contacts who would know that info 😅 I probably should have just googled it... there are websites devoted to measuring impedence (output and input), and ironically they often don’t trust each other’s results. Regardless! The Austrian Audio Headphone should probably sound great! And I get the impression that most audio enthusiasts who choose a phone with a headphone jack will probably gravitate towards an LG phone, and others (like me) are using a player or DAC/amp instead of our phones. its funny... I don’t find new smartphones all that compelling these days (other than computational camera features and gaming performance). Others may disagree here, and be excited by the 25% or 100% improvements in compute or graphics power. But I’d rather “complete” my digital ecosystem at this point, buying a smartwatch, thermostats and lights (the lights have been nice energy savers, though I just got another that I think will be great for urban gardening!), have an tablet that can replace a laptop, get a cool music player to separate me from everything “phone” (unless I want to stream), etc.
Mar 10, 2020
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