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Flaunty
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Feb 20, 2017
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Everyone that's recommending either Senheisser HD598 or M50X doesn't have a clue in audio fidelity and what people actually prefer. When you look at M50X, you're aiming at an audience that loves closed back style but wants robust build quality, sparkly ass highs, and tight bass. It's basically just a shit Basshead upgraded to refined tastes that doesn't have good qualities to it. HD598 are the people that mistake "flat" or "neutral" sound signature to be the end-game for anyone that's looking to be an entry-audiophile. Audiophiles know damn well that music is boring and frankly unattractive without slight attenuation to key frequencies that we always hear in music and in specific genres. 598's are boring if you've tried any other open back. Even their lower-tier, 558, have a sound signature that's much more attractive and doesn't lose clarity excessively since they hold the pros of an open-back. If you're aiming to be an audio purist, that's another thing. Fun isn't for you. Or enjoyment.
Closed back: M40X are your go-to for cheap and great entry-level headphones. They're solidly built (with standard functionality and features), have great sound that's just toned-down but balanced M50X's that power well when hooked up to an amp. $80 is a steal and slapping pads later on when you have money just makes them even more of an amazing deal to sit at a desk or on the go. Anything better is probably a lot more expensive or similar with a little higher price tag. Except if you want a lot of bass. Then do with DT770. Super comfortable and holy shit that bass. But you'll probably go over your pricepoint because you'll mess up if you don't get the 250 Ohms variation and buy a good DAC/AMP. Open-back: If you want monitoring (they're great for serious listening and gaming) cans, go for the ATH AD series by Audio-Technica. I'd aim for the 700X since most people like that the most for the pricing and they're mostly all similar in sound signature with more bass as you go higher and more sound stage. Of course, slightly more accurate as you go higher. If you want all-arounders, similar to the M40X, go with the SHP9500. They're crazy cheap ($55 on NewEgg) and they're amazing openback headphones for the price. They have high clarity that's not veiled but is toned down for application and higher volumes, mids that are solid for monitoring and warmth, and bass that hits deep, but doesn't over-extend or meddles with the lower-mids. They also have great imaging and sound separation. Lastly, AKG7XX are great if you have that kind of cash. They're the sound signature I think people love and they're basically like the AD series (in style and in sound signature), but with a lot more warmth and apparent bass. They're extremely comfortable too, whereas the AD series you'll probably need to swap pads out for. Also, if you want to go with something similar to the amazing Fidelio X1/2 that's actually what I consider price efficiency, Fidelio L1-L2 are basically recessed versions of them with less definition, but with a wonderful depth and sound anyways. They're also gorgeous.
Bottom line: Closed-cans are hard to argue for<$150, which is why people literally only ever say ATH-M50X. Open back has a lot of choice, but multiple different options for your needs and pricepoints. Look at all of them and then chose according to what YOU like. Not the end-all god M50X or HD598.
Feb 20, 2017
Makami
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To each his own, but you've lost me right at the beginning: "Everyone that's recommending either Senheisser HD598 or M50X doesn't have a clue in audio fidelity and what people actually prefer."
How have i gotten aware of your posting; simple; MD sent me a message, God left the building, but left his message of knowledge and trust to speak on the behalf of all of us.
Feb 20, 2017
Flaunty
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Feb 20, 2017
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I say that because even though they have specific qualities that beat out everyday garbage retail and a lot of lower class and cheaper headphones, they don't determine the definitive choice for audio fidelity for this person and their tastes. It's recommendation of a staple, but not everyone fits that niche. I say options and choice around a budget is better than just sticking to one pair of cans that aren't for everyone. People that don't realize that have never tried other headphones.
Feb 20, 2017
GUTB
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Feb 20, 2017
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No, the HD598 and M50X are lo-fi headphones.
Personally, I can't in good conscious recommend any headphones under $300.
Feb 20, 2017
Makami
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Agreed,
we've some good deals every other day for the Sennheiser HD 600 as example going "cheap" under $300 . My "rant" had been about the part "Everyone that's recommending either Senheisser HD598 or M50X doesn't have a clue in audio fidelity and what people actually prefer." No problem if someone is speaking for himself, but to claim to speak for the people is something i don't like that much, because no one is able to do so.
Feb 20, 2017
ferretallica
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Feb 23, 2017
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Yup, opened like a douche, continued like a douche.
Feb 23, 2017
Flaunty
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Feb 24, 2017
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Feb 24, 2017
qu11355
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Apr 9, 2017
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I highly reconmand the vmoda m100, philips l2 both of them are under $300. bother better than HD598 and M50X
Apr 9, 2017
qu11355
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Apr 9, 2017
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L2 will give you deeper base, less quantity of bass than X2. Smaller sound stage, less fatigue highs. L2 is a close vs X2 semi open. Both are very detail. I currently have both. L2 for bass heavy or vocals music. X2 for gaming, movies, soundtrack, it gives you more immersive experience. L2 is more neutral, X2 is warm.
M50X vs M40X Both close back. I like m40x better because it has better mid range, and it's most neutral. The bass on m50x is not good. I would go with the l2, or m100 if your music calls for bass.
M100>L2>m40x>m50x Not including x2 for it's a open back headphone and it's not portable.
I personally owned all those
Apr 9, 2017
Kados
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Jun 2, 2017
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As someone who has been into high end headphones for ~15 years and owns many different sets (ATH-M50, HD 598, HD 650, AH-D2000, SR80, HE-500i, SRH-840, DT-770, Paradigm H15, Audeze EL-8 open backs, Campfire Orions, & SE425s) The 598s are still one of my favorites. Honestly the 650s are the only ones i like more, and even then it is only by a small amount. Neutral is not the end all, but it is a great starting point for manual EQ. With neutral headphones, you can boost the frequencies you want more of without having to lower the ones you do not. Headphones that are already boosted are much more difficult to personalize the sound signature of. You spend a ton of time trying to correct the sound rather than just expanding on it. The 598s also happen to take really well to manual EQ. A neutral sound signature also tends to seperate instruments better and generally has better resolution than equally priced non-neutral headphones. The HD 598s also have about the best soundstage you will find under $500.
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