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Long post with poor spelling and grammar incoming but this latest addition to my collection. I got my Ginault Ocean Rover 2 in the mail today after preordering 3-4 months ago. I know that understandably for some people the controversy around Ginault would probably be pretty off putting. But for me I think that if true it just makes the watch that much more interesting. When I first heard of Ginault it caught my attention but I wasn't that super interested. It was a rather costly, it had a unproven in house movement which would make serving a hassle, and there was the controversy about the alleged past involvement in making high end Rolex replicas. That said, I did like the idea of a Submariner homage with a slimmer case and the mil spec hands. I have never really liked the commonly used merc hands. Which is why I gifted my Steinhart black ceramic to my brother in law and don't think I would ever want to buy a Rolex Submariner. I started to become a lot more interested when I saw Ginaults response to the community. Not necessarily to the controversy, obviously its understandably they would want to avoid that. But how they improved upon the criticisms of the original Ocean Rover got my attention. To copy and paste from Ginault... ________________________________________________________________ SPECIFICATIONS: 
*in bold are upgrades/changes made on the Ocean Rover 2  
  • 40mm pre-ceramic style case, chamfered lugs, no holes (hand finished) 
  • high-gloss enamel dial, forged applied indices (hand assembled) 
  • beveled sword hour/minute hands, custom Ginault red-second hand     
  • Sellita SW200-1/ETA 2824-2, 5 positions 6-week regulated 
  • ceramic insert, engraved, 60min full graduation, lume pip at 12 o'clock (if you prefer the classic look, aluminum inserts seen on our OR-1 can be mounted upon request)
  • gen II bezel assembly, structurally redesigned for the most amazing turning and tactile feedback, the outer ring is slightly re-profiled with slightly deeper and sharper teeth for a better grip 
  • triple-layer, optometry grade (clear coating, no blue-hue) anti-reflective sapphire
  • gen II 94530G bracelet, tighter mid-link tolerance, slightly re-profiled clasp for enhanced comfort and durability, 3 x 3 permanent link design allows a perfect fit even for the slender wrist.  
________________________________________________________________ I don't know whether the allegations are true. But even if they are I think that it is at least some what admirable how they have transitioned from something we all rightfully see as wrong and harmful to making a legitimate product and showing that they are genuine about what they are doing by listening and improving their product. It was this more than anything that sold me the watch. I am not sure how the watch will hold up overtime, and I don't want to overstate the quality of the watch, but overall I am extremely impressed. Particularly around the regulation. Like I do for all new watches I get, I put it on the timegrapher and it was 0 to +1 across the board, which is far better than two watches I have bought over the last year which were equally or much more expressive. The only thing that I am not in love with is the bezel action. But that is more of a personal preference. And I have others praise it. It should also be mentioned that Ginault kept the 'HAND BUILT IN AMERICA' on the dial. Some have questioned the legitimacy of the claim. I personally couldn't care less for multiple reasons. Understandably this watch is controversial and comes with some baggage. But I couldn't be more happy with it!
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wlhughes
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Aug 6, 2020
That’s what counts most.
RayF
22234
Aug 6, 2020
Can't quite agree with you on this point: "...something we all rightfully see as wrong and harmful to making a legitimate product..." I no longer support or wish to be identified with that line of group-think propaganda. It's demonstrably false, and serves no one but the fat cat companies that actively seek to screw us over with artificial product shortages designed to inflate outrageous pricing schemes. Or, to put it another way: fuck Rolex. Otherwise an excellent review and a pretty nice watch ;- )  
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TwentySixAnd
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Aug 6, 2020
No fealty! Not even to Heimdallr! Blasphemy
RayF
22234
Aug 6, 2020
There are exceptions to every rule, but if they start charging $14,000 for a Tuna, I’ll move them directly to my shit list, post haste ;- )
Truelove1
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Aug 4, 2020
Very nice!
jaxtrauma
1057
Aug 4, 2020
4 stars!