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Anyone have experience with the Cloud Nine C989M Split Ergonomic Mechanical Keyboard?

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Looks like the best mechanical keyboard option for replacing my Microsoft Natural 4000. Cherry MX Browns, similar geometry, reverse tilt, etc. Does anyone have any experience with these?
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ThePatient
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Feb 7, 2021
If you just want info on the C9, you can skip my post, but if the goal is to find you the right kb, my question is: What is it about the MS 4k you like and dislike and what do you primarily do with it? I don't have experience with the C9, but I used the MS 4k for years and the MS Sculpt for a lot of years after that. I very recently retired my Sculpt and am using an Ergodox EZ, Ergodox Infinity, and a Sofle Keyboard. I primarily use mine for windows and macOS programming, as well as PC gaming. The sculpt might not be a bad choice for transitioning off an MS 4k. It can do reverse tilt, has all the keys, and a mostly familiar layout. The difference will be in the key travel and detached number pad. I don't do a lot of data entry, so the number pad mostly collected dust. The collection of programming languages I use require pretty much the full set of non alpha characters though. With the Sculpt, I tended to rest my palms on the palm rest and use that as my anchor rather than home row or hovering. I love how light and compact the Sculpt is compared to the 4k. After a short transition period of using it, then going back to the 4k, I preferred the short travel and light touch of the Sculpt over the long mushiness of the 4k. It felt more like gliding over the keys rather than having to push like a typewriter. You may find yourself bottoming out for a while whatever keyboard you try next. Tactile switches (like the browns on the C9) will feel like home coming from the membrane on the 4k. Some have mentioned split ergos, and I think something like an Ergodox might be a pretty big jump coming from the 4k, but a plus for them is that you can configure them however you want. It looks like the C9 has a huge footprint given the split, numpad, and two rows of macro keys on the left. You don't need near as many macro keys when you can use layers on a fully programmable board. Most boards like this have a way to toggle a layer that makes the right side into the number pad or whatever you want. This offers the convenience of the numpad without the need for it to take up extra space or take your hand off the home row. Personally, because I am left handed and not all games allow you to rebind everything to the right, I have a layer on all my boards to map the right side as wasd. I just turn it on with a button press when I start. tl;dr:
  • Consider Microsoft Sculpt - shorter travel, separate numpad, more familiar than other layouts.
  • Ergodox good too because you can use layers to avoid needing numpad or macro keys.
  • Brown switches will feel familiar coming from dome whatever you end up choosing.


toytaco92
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Feb 4, 2021
Just got it about 3 weeks ago. Still a bit of adjustment (also came from 10+ years on the MS 4000) but I am loving it so far. My typing speed and accuracy has dramatically increased.
slainbylich
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Feb 2, 2021
go with an ergo split, like a dygma raise or an ergo dox. mx browns suck. the dygma raise has very good switch options, including options for gateron and kailh switches. ya go with cherry, you won't be so merry.
rajputspat12
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Jan 30, 2021
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Sabrejack
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Jan 21, 2021
tl;dr: it's good. I bought this keyboard specifically because I have decades of motor memory from my ms natural 4000 and its predecessors and I needed a 100% sized keyboard with all the keys in the same spots. It's a pleasure to type on, the MX browns are buttery smooth. It seems to have full n-key rollover. It is as close as you'll get to a mechanical ms natural at the moment. The downsides: It's huge, I think I'd call this a 110% keyboard. The switches are soldered in (to be expected I guess.) The left alt is way far left but you'll get used to it. You'll want the firmware that swaps the location of the fn and windows keys (and then swap the keycaps ofc.) There are a lot of hidden keystrokes not in the manual that you can find on their website. I have not found the knob useful and it took a little while to stop bumping it accidentally. The outer edge RGB is not customizable except a few color choices, or "rotating rainbow." The knob RGB is not customizable and is based on its current function. The wrist wrests are hard plastic. The caps lock key isn't stepped, so you might bump it accidentally for a while until you get used to it. But! When my first keyboard's USB-C port was loose (I suspect the solder), they honored my warranty and replaced it with little fuss. I respect the company greatly for that and would buy again.
toytaco92
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Feb 4, 2021
I disabled my caps lock key in the software on day 2 because I was hitting it too often. I never use it anyways.
rhpot1991
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Jan 19, 2021
Drop has had Kinesis keyboard before, look at them if you want ergonomic.
dvsDave
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Jan 19, 2021
The kinesis doesn't have a num pad, that's a non-starter for me.
rhpot1991
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Jan 19, 2021
They sell an external one. At first I missed it, but honestly it gives you a way better mouse placement without all those extra keys. Now I just use the top row most of the time and have the external one to move around when needed. Having an external numpad allows placement above my mouse as well.
djhankb
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Jan 17, 2021
I actually just picked one of these up w/Cherry MX blues a few weeks ago. So far, I am quite pleased with the keyboard. I have used the Microsoft Natural Keyboard Elite every day since the late 90's when it was released - up until last year when both of the ones I had finally started to show enough issues that I sought replacements. Wanting to go the mechanical route for a suitable replacement, I tried a couple standard layout boards, before I came across the Cloud9. I installed the Drop MT3 Susuwatari Keycaps, and it turned out great! It nearly matches the Microsoft layout exactly, while the MT3 keycaps give it a vintage "feel" despite it's modern looks.
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Rayndalf
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Jan 14, 2021
I have a few vintage boards with similar design elements, but that board looks really cool. The fact that each half is tented, but you can adjust the seperation angle make it both solid and adjustable. I kind of want one.
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