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jaydunndiddit
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Jul 30, 2018
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Since this is your first IEM, I would look at something in the $99 range. These days, there a TON of very capable contenders that will let you know the sound signature you prefer before moving on to the next bigger, better thing. Some of my starting suggestions are: Shure 215 Pinnacle PX iBasso IT01 Fiio F9 pro Nuforce EDC or EDC3
I own or have owned everything I mentioned and for the genres you mentioned, they could all fit your taste and needs well.
Jul 30, 2018
Azeendeen
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Jul 30, 2018
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thank you very much. i guess you like kendrick lamar judging from your profile picture. Me too fam, i went to his concert in london . Was freaking dope. BTW all of this IEMs don't require a spare portable headphone amp right? I am planning to use this with only my Samsung S8 . Thing is i can't tell if an impedance is high or low. Like the shure 215 according to their website has 17 ohms which i can't tell if it can be powered by a phone or not lol
Jul 30, 2018
jaydunndiddit
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Jul 30, 2018
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All hail King Kendrick, ha. I haven't had the joy of seeing him yet but from the shows I've seen online, he is a really good showman and gives a great performance.
But no, every IEM I listed can be powered from a phone and get quite loud (I use an old S7 Edge). The only exception would be the Pinnacle PX. While it will get loud, it will be the quietest of the bunch and a portable amp would wake it up a bit more. I still like mine out of my phone but when I use my portable amp/dac they sound much better. All the others have a very low impedance and high sensitivity so they'll get painstakingly loud through your phone, laptop, etc. just fine.
Jul 30, 2018
Azeendeen
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Jul 30, 2018
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thank you bro. Just wondering what portable dac/amp do you use for your phone? I had people telling me to get it for my phone but im just like bothered it would be to big . Like are there good small ones??
Jul 30, 2018
jaydunndiddit
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Jul 30, 2018
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I use the iFi iDSD nano black label as I have some stupidly sensitive IEMs that are hiss prone. It has a neat little gimmick that helps match impedance to prevent this (amongst some other useful things). For under $200, I highly recommend it. It can also power anything under 150 ohms just fine. And while it will power my 300 ohm HD 6XX, that's it's limit. But for a portable unit, that should be expected.
If you don't need a DAC, I use a Fiio A5 ($130) as it's powerful and cheap. If you don't ever plan on powering higher impedance cans, the Fiio A3 would be a safer and cheaper bet (it's only $60). Honestly, if you're sticking with IEMs, you really don't need an amp/DAC. The only reason I got mine was for my Shure 846 and in that regard, it was worth it.
Topping also offer some amp/DACs in a similar form factor but I haven't personally owned those so I can't speak to their quality. They seem popular though and aren't terribly expensive.
Jul 30, 2018
Azeendeen
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Jul 30, 2018
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thx for the info . yeh i think you are right . Im gonna be sticking with IEMs for outside use like commuting,walking or maybe just slightly in gym lol and I don't think i really need a dac/amp as of right now. Whenever im home i use my AKG 7XX or the fidelio x2 powered by a shiit fulla 2 because I just prefer having headphones as usually in home i like to game on my PC.
Jul 30, 2018
GunsOfBrixton
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Aug 2, 2018
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I endorse Jay's list, and would add a couple more options based on your music genres of choice :
1More Triple Driver Marshall Mode in-ear
Both have very satisfying bass and are great iem starting points, with no need for an amp.
Aug 2, 2018
Obama.Barack
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Aug 2, 2018
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How about the audio technicae e40s
Aug 2, 2018
StanDaPan
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Aug 2, 2018
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I also endorse Jay, especially Shure SE215/425, or 1more triple driver.
Aug 2, 2018
phoenixsong
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Aug 3, 2018
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I used to own them, I'd say now they are probably in the 3rd line for their price
Aug 3, 2018
damien_chung
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Aug 3, 2018
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The best in those has to be the IT01s, they are just phenomenal
Aug 3, 2018
jaydunndiddit
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Aug 3, 2018
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The IT01's were ok. They were by no means the worst I heard but the low-end is not controlled and they don't have the best breadth of imaging or separation (in this price bracket). The PX I would say are the most technical but also the most bass shy followed by the F9 pro. The Shure 215 slots itself in the middle. It's probably the most balanced overall in the group IMO.
Aug 3, 2018
GunsOfBrixton
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Aug 3, 2018
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I'm not really a hip-hop or edm listener, so you'll be more authoritative if you are, but do you think the OP will be satisfied with the bass response of the more neutral ones? I know when I throw on some Sublime or something like that, the bass is what I enjoy.
I own or have owned most on your list, and agree they are all very good iems.
But I'm thinking that with the genres he mentioned, and being new to iems, he might enjoy starting with a well executed V-shaped profile. That's why I added the Mode and 1More Triples as options. The Klipsch R6i has some fantastic bass as well.
Just curious on your thoughts, since I'm not really into those genres.
Aug 3, 2018
jaydunndiddit
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Aug 3, 2018
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Well, some would be better than other on the bass impact front (215, EDC, IT01) while the others would offer better extension (PX and F9 Pro). The EDC3 is arguably the most bass shy and came off as very rolled off to my ears.
So my former sugegstions would suffice and really depend on the HipHop/EDM the OP listens to. I'm a closet basshead but shitty bass can kill well recorded HipHop or EDM and enjoy the taut snap of a drum more than the next guy.
That's really my only main issue with the IT01 as its bass is sloppy AF but has some good impact. All the sub/bass on that thing comes over as one note and is a bit boomy. Same with the EDC. The 215 is borderline in that regard but it has the most texture of the three and knows how to get out of its own way.
The PX and F9 Pro make the bass known only and only if it's the main course for a track. Otherwise, they take the backseat. I'm OK with this on some songs as the bass reaches deeper and you require a different texture and tone than the typical 808 and "boom boom bap" from the bass/drums.
I really only included the ED3 as it is a good middle ground for entry-level neutral in my opinion. They're smooth and unoffensive and as long as one doesn't need a lot of bass impact, they're sufficient in that regard. It's a good starting litmus to find what one prefers and moves onto. I personally find strong v-shaped stuff to be very polarizing as I'm in the treble sensitive and sibilant camp. For me, I get this in more aggressive v-shaped stuff than anything else. I thought about recommending some solid single BA IEMs but they may lack the bass impact and texture the OP would want. That and bass is still funky on BA's compared to DD's.
I'm not familiar with the Marshall but the 1More Triple I absolutely despised. Tuning wise it felt like a mess. The Quads were better but not by much. Also, no removal cables which is a huge turnoff in this price bracket for someone that is active doesn't help either. For the cost and bundle of accessories for all that I mentioned, I think they're a good stepping stone for the OP.
Aug 3, 2018
GunsOfBrixton
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Aug 3, 2018
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Solid points on the removable cable and starting flat and growing from there.
While I don't agree with your take on the 1More, you're hardly the only person to find it sibilant, so probably just a matter of our respective tastes being different, so to each his own. For my part, it was one of my first iems, and one of the few I've kept from my original forays into audio. I find it pretty lively and engaging. Polarizing indeed!
But to your point, I have enough neutral reference iems now (e.g. PX, Ety Hf5) that I tend to be drawn to ones with a unique sound of some type.
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