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keyboard_arrow_downBedlam-Inside
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Sep 20, 2021
I hear you, I've been making and listening to music on my ATH Mx50's for years and have plans to buy my buddy's Senn HD6XX's, which I'd recommend, but when in studios making music with friends, I've had tremendous luck on the listed Beyerdynamics. In your shoes I'd look between those but you really can't go wrong with those Senny's.
Ortho_Sympa
144
Sep 10, 2021
The Sennheiser 6xx is by far the best of those 5 headphones and it's not even close. If you don't want to buy an amp i would recommend the sennheiser 560s, they are super easy to drive, great for music and gaming since they have a larger soundstage than the 6xx. The dt990 have a large soundstage too but they also have huge treble spikes which is good for gaming but terrible for music listening. The 4xx and 5xx are not really good. The cheaper hifiman he x4 is actually better than both since it has better tuning and similar resolution. The 58x are decent but not as good as the 6xx and 560s in term of resolution. For amps, the magni and modi stack is always a win, the jds atom is excellent too. You can't go wrong with either.
DippyChips
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Sep 10, 2021
Ortho_SympaThank you for getting back to me.
Okay so based on a few more reviews I've seen on the 6xx and 58x jubilee, they are pretty much identical headphones mainly in terms of drivers and main components, but 58x being cheaper (in price) than 6xx.
Do they apparently also sound very similar? Reviews seem to say so with maybe a hair more bass on 58x if any and a very slight reduction on highs. Would that be accurate according the reviews?
I'm not fan of the super highs and tinny sounds the 6xx may have, and seems like 58x have a slightly reduced high end. Are my thoughts on this accurate?
As for the other headphones, I've heard the same about them but wasn't able to place them in terms of sound and all. So you've helped give me a good perspective on them.
For amps and DACs, are magni modi stack or jds atom able to power a 350+ ohm headphone? (just for my knowledge, because it's ridiculously difficult to get quality stuff where I am so its hard to get any first hand experience or listening time with any of these devices).
Ortho_Sympa
144
Sep 10, 2021
DippyChipsthe 6xx and 58x do not share the same drivers. The 58x actually use a modified version of the 599 drivers. The 6xx drivers are superior overall in term of resolution and clarity and they will scale with better gear which is not the case for the 58x
The 6xx and 58x have similar tuning. The 6xx is neutral with a warm tilt which means slightly recessed highs and increased bass, they do not sound thin at all. The 58x does have more mid bass but it bleeds in the mids which reduce the overall clarity of the 58x. The 6xx has a more neutral tuning and better resolution than the 58x
As for power requirements. both the JDS and schiit stack will easily power both headphones. There's a lot of misinformation online about power requirements of the 6xx. 1W is enough for 99% of headphones on the market at the moment. The magni is 2.4W while the atom is 1W. get the magni if you want to be on the safe side.
If you're looking for great online reviewers that give accurate description on how headphones sounds, look up the headphone show on youtube or crinacle's website. They're by far the most reliable source of information out there.
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- Hifiman HE4XX Planar magnetic
- Hifiman HE5XX Planar magnetic
- Beyerdynamic DT990 PRO
- Sennheiser HD 58X Jubilee
- Sennheiser HD 6XX
//images at the very end, scroll to see. Would be very helpful too if an amp and/or DAC is recommended that goes well with the list above (combined cost of around $200 max) Thanks.Story (kinda) I've been looking at getting my first pair of open-back headphones for a while (for music, gaming and movies). I've watched many reviews and I seem to have decided on 5, but I'm struggling to pick one out of the five. I currently use ATH-M50x's (for years now), and they sound great. No complaints at all. But I would like to have a decent open back pair as well. However, without physically listening to them, it's hard to judge what the actual true lows, mids, and highs are, or what they sound like, based on the video reviews or "demos" with binaural microphones. They never seem to be accurate though (for obvious reasons: recording, exporting, upload to YouTube (compression), then viewing/ listening on a different device with different audio settings etc.) <- I know, not ideal. This is where you come in; if you have the headphones listed above, or have listened to them, please leave your opinions as comparisons. Things I'm looking for:
- Under $200 (but willing to step up a little bit through recommendations if necessary) the ones above should be alright except one.
- good highs (but not overly tinny or harsh)
- bass is usually not too prominent on open back I know, but would like some decent bass out of them
- importantly, it mustn't feel as though someone is hovering their hand close to the back of the headphones giving that "covered"/tight mid sound (if that makes sense) something like the AKG 712pro (based on sound demos I've heard so far). I'm guessing something with strong mids would cause this idk.
- basically good overall highs, mids and lows balance (I'm comparing sound to m50x because that's the only reference I know of to base my preference on). Not comparable I know but it's what I got to work with.
That being said, I'd also like a recommendation on amplifiers and DACs. Basically which would work best with the list above, but combined shouldn't go above $200. Currently what I'm looking at is :- Schiit Magni 3+ amp
- Schiit Modi DAC
- DROP O2 Headphone amp
- JDS Labs Atom amp
I included these because they came up quite a few times in different reviews etc. This is probably a harder thing to recommend I know. I'm going from just reviews I've watched and things I've looked up trying to get a feel of what they might sound like. Ultimately it IS a personal preference so I'll be taking all opinions with a grain of salt. And since I'm going from closed to open back, I'm sure the upgrade in quality (even on a budget open back headset) would be a large improvement and is probably worth the upgrade for the next few years. Thank you for getting this far on the post, I appreciate the time you've taken to answer the simple (yet very hard) question I have. Your views are appreciated greatly. ImagesHeadphones: DT990 PRO (below)
Amps and DACS: JDS Labs ATOM AMP+ (below)