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I just got my pants today in the mail. I have to say they're pretty much everything I ever wanted in USA made selvedge denim. They're just a bit snug but they'll stretch since I probably won't wash them for the better part of a year. Dark rigid denim with a high rise like a pair of Wrangler jeans and legs the fit like a good pair of Levis 505. My phone and wallet fit in the pockets without Siri activating every time I bend over. I'm glad I stumbled upon these here on Massdrop, or I would have never known you guys existed as a company since you're not hipster fodder like Tellason, Baldwin, Raleigh, et al... I'm going to recommend the jeans to people I know who don't wear Peter Pan pants. Dudes over 30 who aren't emaciated mangirls without guts.