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Babysoysauce
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Mar 21, 2017
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Hows the Hangzou movement compared to premiun movements from Swisse or Germany?
ac3698
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Mar 21, 2017
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BabysoysauceIt depends on which swiss movements you are comparing to. Some Hangzou movements had been know comparable to the ETA movements such as ETA 2824-2 and ETA 2004-1:
http://forums.watchuseek.com/f72/how-do-seagull-hangzhou-compare-eta-depth-look-216945.html
The above review indicates that the Hangzou movement they used were comparable and meeting ETA minimum requirements. Since ETA 2824-2 movement were used by some expensive watch brands such as Tudor and Baume & Mercier, one can roughly assume that the Hangzou movements are of good value and performance.
http://forums.watchuseek.com/f72/how-do-seagull-hangzhou-compare-eta-depth-look-216945.html
The above review indicates that the Hangzou movement they used were comparable and meeting ETA minimum requirements. Since ETA 2824-2 movement were used by some expensive watch brands such as Tudor and Baume & Mercier, one can roughly assume that the Hangzou movements are of good value and performance.
drizzy
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Jun 28, 2017
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Babysoysaucewhat he says is true, but lets not forget that this watch has the finishings of a 12$ watch. the movement appears to have no finishing what so ever, given its skeleton movement it is vital to have high end finishing. if you compare the movement to any high end eta from a better firm you will clearly see the quality difference from a tudor compared to this movement. honestly hop on alibaba and pick up a 15$ skeleton watch and its going to be the same.
drizzy
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Jun 29, 2017
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BlueCrownedIt does, I found it in 2 minutes if you look harder you will find some great pieces. Many low budget watch companies take alibaba style watches and slap their own logo on it. I've sworn of watches for a bit since I'm buying a submariner lb in a few months
BlueCrowned
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Jun 29, 2017
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drizzyI don't actually wear watches but this one looks cool.
ED61
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Aug 18, 2019
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BabysoysauceIt doesn’t comparing this movement to a quality swiss or german movement is totally ridiculous because it does the job and turns the hands around the watch case doesn’t make it quality don’t listen to the guy telling you it’s roughly as good as a Tudor eta movement he’s insane
Glen8
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Aug 18, 2019
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ED61Honestly how do you know? You understand that ETA's have Chinese parts in them right? Maybe made by Hangzhou, where do you think they got their know-how? To say 'Swiss Made' it must have 60% of it's VALUE sourced in Switzerland. They get their escapements esp on the cheap entry grade 2824 from CHINA where they have contracted local companies to make their parts to their specs. This is common knowledge, and is why nobody should be afraid of a Chinese movement or turn their nose up at them. You just shouldn't pay this much for one, that's the only thing wrong with this drop
Glen8
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Aug 18, 2019
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ED61What movements are made in Germany? Germany is not known for movements, they assemble watches with Swiss movements, and Japanese movements and yes, Chinese movements. And the vast majority of 'German Made' watches are made in China, and at the most assembled in Germany. Whole watch groups are made on this strategy, Junkers, Zeppelin, Iron Annie, Elysee, not one single part is made in Germany. Basically every single German watch that you can afford to buy.. As are the vast majority of the parts that go into affordable Swiss watches. (40% of the value to be exact, which amounts to 95% by weight, as the Chinese parts include often the case, crystal, escapement and other parts of the movement, all they have to do to satisfy the requirement is charge a LOT for the Swiss parts, and pay a LITTLE for the Chinese ones, which is exactly how it is)
Glen8
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Aug 19, 2019
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ED61I'm talking about affordables so save your education for someone who needs it. Most of the Glasshutte in hose movements are based on others, and the vast majority of the watches they sell use ETA's anyway. The really expensive watches from all over are great but most of us can't afford them, and they sell in very small numbers. And I would be willing to bet there are Chinese parts in that Omega of yours if it was made in the last 20 years.
Glen8
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Aug 19, 2019
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ED61I didn't say 'no' movements are made in Germany, I said they aren't known for it, there are maybe 3 that I can think of, and way out of most people's ballparks. Millions and millions of watches under a grand are sold to a few thousand of the ridiculously priced ones, and most people understand that 'Made in Germany' means very little on those. Way way less then Swiss Made means. You pretty much just have to have a PO Box in Germany. Thanks for the education, hopefully one day I'll be a multi millionaire so I can buy one of your 100%German made watches. In the meantime I will continue to enjoy my Swiss/Chinese and German/Chines watches with the rest of the common folk
Glen8
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Aug 19, 2019
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ED61My point in case it got lost in all your bs, is that Chines parts are good enough to make up large portions of watches we all love, and they work very well, Swiss watchmakers are heavily, heavily invested in China, that isn't a big secret, so don't be such a snob, brown people make really nice things all over the place, even in China
ED61
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Aug 19, 2019
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Glen8This all started with someone saying this crap movement is the same as a top grade eta Tudor movement and I’m not a snob i also own seiko selita glycine steinhart bulova citizen I’m just a collector but I know the difference between top grade chrono grade even elabore grade eta and seagull clones
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