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Derek1
7
Jul 26, 2017
Why would you get this over a standard water Stone?
ChicagoWay
657
Jul 26, 2017
Derek1Even if you are very good and well practiced you are going to impart a slight convex edge if manually sharpening with water stones without a guide. Many people want to take the play one has out of the equation especially if one reprofiles. I only have water stones but don't care.
Gritomatic
12
Jul 26, 2017
ChicagoWay We have some customers - experienced free-hand sharpeners - who use Hapstone for reprofiling because it's so much easier.
ChicagoWay
657
Jul 26, 2017
GritomaticThink that was my point :)
Derek1
7
Jul 26, 2017
ChicagoWayI'm trying to find some material on the subject as I have only been researching for a week or so. It's hard to find a discussion about sharpening that doesn't like a paid advertisement. I like the price of the stones and the simplicity of a system. I'm assuming you can sharpen both japanese and western knives with both stones or system correct?
MurderDogg
73
Jul 26, 2017
Derek1My Daddy and I used to sit down sharpen our personal knives on Sunday, before eating steak dinner. He had a noticeably worn down Old Timer. I had a Schrade or old Buck knife. We used a two sided wet stone and oil to sharpen each blade. 10 or 20 even strokes on each side, holding the blade at a steady angle throughout the pulls. Then turn the stone over and repeat. The resulting edge would pop hair off his arm. Over the years i have seem to have lost my geist for this craft. These fix angle sharpening systems offer me a chance to easily get my knife collection to "scary sharp" status without having years of trial and experience with the same stone and knives.
ChicagoWay
657
Aug 7, 2017
Derek1Hi Derek. Flattered you asked my opinion. Sorry been busy looking for work.
Short answer is on Japanese water stones you can basically do anything which is what I primarily use. Magic steels will take you forever to do though. You might want to get diamond stones or a mix. I initially bought Japanese water stones to do planing cutters. If you are referring to this system not really sure. Fairly sure western knives would be okay in general. Traditional Japanese knives can be a bit odd and expensive. If you go this route get knives that have seen better days to start out on. I would point out that looking at the cost of the stones might not be the best factor when deciding. Each company has different quality stones. Nice part about this system is it takes other companies stones. So if you don't like these you can get another companies.
Long answer, I'm not sure i am the best to address your comment as there are many here I think have more knowledge of steels and sharping. I am old enough to have caught the tail end of men coming to sharpen family tools door to door when i was like 6. I started with Arkansas stones but never liked the oil. Moved to Japanese water stones when I took an interest in woodworking. BTW vendors will tell you how wonderful natural stones are. Of course they are more expensive and I have never found them to be superior to manmade. I also have the Syperco sharpener they had for sale here.
I think the Syderco sharpener is fine but once you buy all the accessories to make the system work you end up paying more than it is worth IMHO. You want the diamonds to reprofile and the extrafine stones to give a mirror polish. You easily spend about $140. If I had to do it again I would get a pivot type sharpener. Lansky has fixed degrees. A pivot sharpener such as this you can basically do any degree. You have to really do some research as some clones are better than "originals" in some respects. Each has their weaknesses and strengths relative to each other.
Murderdogg as a point that those systems are easier to use than using stones by hand. You could always do the "scarey sharp"method with sand paper and a mousepad (I do something similar sharpening axes). But it puts a convex edge on blades and will fuck up your flat edges. As difficult as it is try to work through all the bs and politics on the big blade forums. I am in the same boat as you to some extent as I think I will get a pivot system to at least reprofile as I now have enough magic stainlesses to make it worth while. Best advice I ever got was to use whatever system you decide on crap blades. If you don't have them go to goodwill and get half a dozen. Good luck.